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Re: I hate Yank Porn
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:04 pm
by Sam Slater
Yeah, guys that jerk themselves off instead of the girl doing it. A girl finishing a guy off looks way better.
Re: I hate Yank Porn
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:06 pm
by c.j.jaxxon
When I first saw BangBros a few years back on the Bangbus I liked it but whoever the hell it was talking and making wisecracks off camera needed to be shot. In one where the had this Asian girl he kept mocker her! I hated it! !annoyed!
Re: I hate Yank Porn
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:18 pm
by one eyed jack
Zoom Raker wrote:
Ok one eyed jack, what would you recomend?
I like British girls, lots of hard fucking, anal and dp.
Lots of face shots, good camera angles and well lit.
Don't like too much emphasis on close ups.
Really dislike fishooking, face slapping and face spitting although am cool with spanking.
Well yes, the sites in my sig below
Current faves: Roxy Rare and Amber Rox.
Note Roxy Rare went by her real name for Real Couples (her choice). I have another scene ofhers coming soon on one man banned with Tony DeSergio.
Your quick to critiscise me for expressing an opinion, are you able to be constructive?
Nothing wrong with expressing an opinion but we've been down this path many times before and to Micjk Handy: Thanks for the patronising comment. I didnt know I was 'you lot'. I dont happen to think my stuff is shot that bad and if I remeber correctly dont you just shoot stuff of blokes getting wanked off by girls. I think you should stand up and be counted with us as 'you lot' since you produced material yourself. You say you can do better. Well do it then and give Zoom Raker something to rave about.
Re: I hate Yank Porn
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:47 am
by Mick Handy
well one eyed jack .... I've now sold up and no longer a producer so now I'm a punter and can and will vent my frustration on badly produced porn .... yes i made HJ vids and listened to my customers and gave them what they wanted and I've already admitted that not all my vids where good, some where total crap.
Some constructive ideas
1 - How about using different lighting ... instead of trying to light up the whole room/set get a little creative and just light up the area where the action is going on and dim it down a little..... and use some daylight correction gel or different colored gels like reds, blue and greens this can make a huge change to the scene.
2 - Restrict the amount of extreme close ups
3 - Lets see much more of the girl, her face and her body
4 - No need to get the girl naked so quickly, Stocking, corsets etc can make a scene very sexy.
5 - As a man i don't really wanna see the guys face, or his hairy ugly arse
6 - Make a scene more like boyfriend/girlfriend sex ... this could be harder to achieve i admit but is possible.
Just a couple of ideas to start with.
Like you said we've been down this path before many times so does this not say something to you ... it say to me the customers are not that happy with the product there being sold.
Again i come back to Self jerkers .. why haven't producers answered this question as to why you allow this to go on. Female wanking is OK men love to watch that but guys wanking off is not a turn on for us guys.
i suspect this subject will continue to be an issue till something changes ... why don't i do it you say ... simple my money is going elsewhere nowadays.
Re: I hate Yank Porn
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:29 am
by one eyed jack
Mick I cant help but feel with your handy tips that this criticism is levelled at me but maybe it isnt as I'm not guilty of any of the things you listed.
I dont get models naked quick. I use a mixture of ambient and localised lighting as this doesnt make my scenes look like they are factory produced in a studio and dependent on the couple, I've had a variety of clothing that they feel comfortable in. Just take a look on the site for yourself.
And given what you are ranting about there are almost endless videos of this type around which brings me back to : What the hell are people moaning about?...But you reserve the right to moan just dont expect me not to zealously defend myself when rebuked. I also feel I have the right to reply also when someone does have a moan.
Outside of BGAFD land I get alot of people signing up and have been members for years. That tellsme something. Also I am my own customer too and If I've done a below average shoot. I'm the first one to know it.
Re: I hate Yank Porn
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:52 am
by zoomraker
The trouble is unless you are very familiar with the style of different producers it is hard to know what you are getting.
The stuff Mick is talking about sounds cool and this is the kind of porn i would like to get when I spend my cash.
Had a look at some of you realcouples trailers and it looks pretty good but the fact the camerman is talking over scenes meens I will probably take my money elsewhere.
Just subscribed to UKRoadtrips and very dissapointed complete waste of ?20
Re: I hate Yank Porn
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:32 am
by one eyed jack
I dont talk over scenes at all unless I am talking to the performers at the beginning.
I dont do the narrative thing.
Re: I hate Yank Porn
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:40 am
by Mick Handy
One eyed your defending yourself to much, as you say it's not a direct rip at you ... I'd never get personal with someone I've never meet.... But if i remember right we did chat on the phone about one asshole we had issues with.
This is a moan to all the industry to get there shit together.
You say your stuff covers all that we're moaning about ... fair enough. and you say there's lots of stuff out there to make us happy well I'm sorry to say i haven't really found it but i will admit I've kinda given up searching for stuff that's good .... especially on the web.... you see all the tours out there and 99% of them end with self jerkers, this is my pet hate and is the main reason i will not spend money on any sites out there cause you just can't trust the content.
As a producer of HC please answer the question about self jerkers ... why does it happen .... in my short 7 years and nearly 200 videos i never had any self jerkers ... any producer can answer this question ... WHY !!!!
This is the UK and we should have our own style of porn and not follow those from across the pound.
Please let come and direct one of your films and I'll do it free. .... (((-:
Re: I hate Yank Porn
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:24 pm
by Sam Slater
OEJ,
Remember that people complaining are good for the industry. It means the 'care' enough to moan about what they want. They could keep quiet and just buy US & Euro porn........where would that leave the British industry?
People only complain about something they care about, and if they care about the standard of British porn, then that's a good thing right?
You're right in that there's lots of stuff to choose from, but the problem is inconsistency. I've seen a Relish movies that looked great with good camera angles, but watched one scene where they were performing on a wooden floor. All I heard all the way through the scene was the fucking floorboards creaking, which was something they could have avoided. the audio was crap. I've seen other British companies where the lighting is good, and then their next release was full of green & red hues from using the auto white balance whist filming under video 'and' fluorescent light. It's just careless, and something the yanks would have sorted out.
Re: I hate Yank Porn
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:25 pm
by Ned
Self jerking is better than having the woman yanking away as if she's never held a cock in her life before. I've seen a lot of that over the years.
The ideal scenario is to get the guy to pull out just before he comes and blow his load wherever the scene requires it.
Self jerking is not a big problem for me as a viewer as long as it's quick. Some producers seem to have no idea about editing and will be wuite happy to show you some guy wanking himself to a standstill for the money shot.