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I hear what you're saying Alice. But I was referring to American porn specifically.

Probably 99% of the stuff coming out of the States these days is just utter, overblown bollox featuring the same old diet of blonde, concrete-titted Barbie Dolls (many of whom even look alike), either naked or in stripper heels or day-glo fishnets and being gang-banged in all kinds of outlandish positions by tattooed thugs and / or buffed-up bodybuilder types on Viagra.

Samey - and just plain old boring - don't even begin to describe it.

Euro Porn is a different matter altogether though, and you're absolutely right about the Eastern European girls being stunning. The directors (Dorcel et al) also know how to dress them and make the whole thing so much more erotic.

Sarah Young from 1989 onwards - I'm with you on that as well. There was some great stuff produced by the SAP label from around that date. Indeed that label was the natural successor to and took over the mantle of Teresa Orlowski's VTO, which stopped producing anythimng decent after around 1990 / 1991. Which maybe had something to do with the fact that the original brains behind VTO, Sascha Alexander, split from Teresa in the late '80s, trading her in for England's very own Sarah Louise Young instead.



Alice In Blunderland wrote:

> Seka and Desiree they were two hotties, I will be honest I am
> not really into porn from that era, I think the women in porn
> have generally got a lot better looking during the 1990's and
> this decade .... I much prefer the stuff coming out
> of Europe- the girls from Czech Rep and Hungary are usually
> stunning ... I did not grow up watching porn during these
> so called Golden Era's ... my interest really
> starts with Sarah Young around 1989

Isn't it amazing how they fight against stereotypes of women but in the photo on jacques link all the women look exactly how I imagine feminists to look.
But I say again
http://www.fiawol.demon.co.uk/FAC/

the feminist on there are more switched on about porn than most people I have ever met.

Andy,
You are right Thatcher believed in a free market for everything but porn! That is what I mean by the"unholy alliance" between the left and the right over censorship.
When juries started acquitting pornographers, such as me at the Old Bailey in 1983, she conspired together with Graham Bright MP, her PPS, to bring in the Video Recordings Act 1984:


Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:33 am Post subject: WHY THE VIDEO RECORDINGS ACT IS ILLEGAL


In the English Parliament before a law can be passed it has to be debated on the floor of the House. Also it is extremely rare and almost impossible for a Private Members Bill to become law and illegal if it is not debated first.

The passing of the Video Recordings Act 1984 (VRA) was a conspiracy by the Thatcher government. The reason was that the Obscene Publications Act ,the main state censorship device, was failing and juries were acquitting pornographers. I myself was acquitted for producing The Videx Video Show in 1983 a hardcore film. I said to the Director of Public Prosecutions "that I have smashed your Obscene Publications Act".

The state needed a new law that would be able to stop the flood of hardcore pornography into the UK. Mrs Thatcher hated porn and thought that it would corrupt the great British public.She stated that the "permissive society" was the greatest threat to our morals and way of life. This disciple of the free market wanted a free market in everything else but porn! Her friend was Mrs Mary Whitehouse the notorious anti Porn campaigner.They got together to draw up the VRA(Mrs Thatcher was a trained solicitor) which would stop the permissive society,born of the Sixties revolution,in its tracks.

A big campaign was started in the media against Video Nasties(horror films with a misogynistic plot) and there was a unholy alliance between the feminists,on the left and the right wing. How to get the Bill through
Parliament. Mrs Thatcher persuaded her Private Secretary, Graham Bright MP to introduce a Private Members Bill (PMB) . Thatcher conspired with her cronies and the media and the Video Recordings Bill sailed through Parliament unopposed and undebated. This had never happened before in the history of the house.

The consequences in the UK for filmmakers who desire to make films with explicit sex scenes is that the VRA requires them to submit their films to the BBFC in order to obtain a licence. If the film is then classified R18 it can only be sold in licensed sexshops and it is illegal to sell by mailorder. For this privilege producers are forced to pay approximately 20 Euros a minute.

With the invention of digital camcorders and editing systems the making of films has become democratic. It should be a revolutionary time for budding filmakers to enter the market and make money. However if they want to put their film on the market it must be sumitted to the BBFC, with an upfront non-refundable fee. The cutting crew issue a cuts list if the filmmaker has decided to include any forbidden images. For example, a fist entering a vagina. Some women have smaller fists than penises and this is only one example of state censorship in this country.

The BBFC is not an independent body,as described on its website, but a state institution controlled by the Home Office who issue the criteria for censorship.

The rest of the European market have abolished such censorship years ago, Denmark being the first in 1969 after Dr Berl Kutchinsky of the Copenhagen Department of Forensic Science presented his findings on the effects of pornography The reason everyone in Europe followed the Danish experiment was that sex crimes against women dropped dramatically when pornography became widely available.Now here in the 21st centure British filmakers are still controlled by an illegal, artificial censorship device the VRA 1984.

Mike Freeman.

Keith,

One cannot generalise about porn because there will always be artists making it for different motivations than is generally understood and there will always be the exception of a well made sex film.

However as the appreciation of pornography is subjective one cannot make value judgements as different viewers like different films. Some films appeal to males, other to females, some to couples.

I have always made films that I like knowing that there are those who will like the same as me.
Mike.

Hell Kitten,

If you think that the feminist war on porn is over read this. The war is on and is the root cause for new legislation heading your way in the form of the "violent pornography" bill.


Women?s Space/The Margins
I?m a radical feminist, not the fun kind. ? Andrea Dworkin
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Pornography and Pop Culture: Reframing Theory, Rethinking Activism

March 23-25, 2007
Wheelock College
Boston

The so-called ?porn wars? that were fought over the feminist critique of contemporary mass-marketed pornography derailed important academic and activist work. It is time to move on by reframing our thinking on pornography, especially in light of the important changes that have occurred in both technology and pop culture over the past two decades. In the world of the internet, cell phone porn, Howard Stern and ?Girls Gone Wild,? the central insights of the critical feminist perspective are more important than ever. What was once called soft-core pornography has become the norm in mainstream pop culture, while hard-core porn has become increasingly accepted and increasingly misogynistic. What do such economic and cultural shifts mean for feminist theory and activism, and how can we rebuild a vibrant feminist movement that addresses the harms of misogynist images that help define our culture, our visual landscape and our sexuality? These issues will be addressed at a national conference on March 23-25, 2007, at Wheelock College in Boston. Titled ?Pornography and Pop Culture: Reframing Theory, Rethinking Activism,? this conference will (1) feature recent feminist theory and research on pornography, prostitution and pop culture, and (2) provide space for collaborative discussion on how we can prepare the ground for building a broad-based, energized and vibrant feminist movement that can address the harms of pornographic images in the context of a more general political and cultural crisis.

For a full schedule and registration details, please go to http://www.wheelock.edu/ppc/

Heart

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