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Mojo wrote:

> And in history Muslims have been found guilty of trying to
> invade parts of Europe. For one so obviously pro-Islam, you and
> your friends have to remind yourselves of one thing that's been
> quoted as being said by Christ (they believe in him too):
>
> "He who is without sin cast the first stone."
>
> In other words, Muslims have a bit of a nerve to cry foul when
> they themselves have done exactly the same thing in Europe in
> history.

"The Muslims" aren't whinging! Show me one thread where Muslims are whinging about anything. All we get is people like you moaning endlessly about things that Muslims haven't even said, but you somehow imagined!

As for Muslims invading parts of Europe - you're referring to the Moorish occupation of Southern Spain that ended 600 years ago? Or do you have a fucking clue what you're talking about? Regardless, Britain and other Western powers have attacked Muslim countries constantly over the past century. It's clear where the aggression is coming from.

We (Britain) have repeatedly attacked the Arab world, Afghanistan, Iran, Egypt and other countries. France slaughtered thousands of Algerians. America has toppled democracies in Iran and Iraq, and is currently cupporting dictatorships in Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Jordan and endless other Muslim countries. Are you really surprised that the Americans were attacked on 9/11 or we on 7/7? I'm not.

Mojo wrote:

> LOL! You miss my point entirely. My point is that the Persians
> and the Moors were invading Europe long before the so-called
> "British Empire" ever existed, so they've got no grounds for
> criticising us for anything.

If you knew what the fuck you were talking about, you'd be dangerous. You must hate Italians, since the Romans occupied Britain for so long. The French occupied us in 1066 and never even left!

strictlybroadband wrote:

> Mojo wrote:
>
> > LOL! You miss my point entirely. My point is that the
> Persians
> > and the Moors were invading Europe long before the so-called
> > "British Empire" ever existed, so they've got no grounds for
> > criticising us for anything.
>
> If you knew what the fuck you were talking about, you'd be
> dangerous. You must hate Italians, since the Romans occupied
> Britain for so long. The French occupied us in 1066 and never
> even left!

And one more piece of information for you - the Persian empire wasn't Islamic.

To think that you can excuse 21st century savagery by America and Britain based on some imagined crime from thousands of years ago... My advice: give up politics and try a career in comedy.

Funny OEJ you should mention Milosovich. Wasn't that the genocidal maniac everyone didn't have a problem with removing?

Wasn't the evil, capitalist, western super powers fighting for the Muslims on that occasion?

If Milosovich had to go, so did Saddam..........it only seems fair really.

discopants wrote:

> no no no one eyed jack what i meant was they(the muslims )
> are all moaning about the west

The Muslims are all moaning are they? This is one of those things that morons continually post on BGAFD without saying what you mean. You're moaning. Are you Muslim?

Mojo wrote:

> Did you know that books were found in mosques that called
> Christians "monkeys" and Jews "dogs", or something along those
> lines. Needless to say, being Muslims and not Christians, the
> government allowed them to keep their books.

That's not true either. I know which story you're referring to, but you've got the facts completely wrong and I'm not going to help you.

Got any real facts?

You got him there SB.

To be fair, the Persians (post empire) did raid Israel, Judah and Turkey (including Christian Constantinople) while they were Islamic.

You make good points though. Europe has invaded the middle east more times than the Islamic world invaded Europe............but it sure as hell wasn't through lack of trying.....remember that SB!

Steve R wrote:

> As I have pointed out previously, it is our solemn duty to
> alienate Muslims.
>
> If we are steadfast in this endeavour, they may simply leave.

It's my job to alienate racist morons, and my campaign is working. They're heading to the Costa Blanca in their thousands, leaving the sane people behind in Britain (although clearly I have some way to go). I feel sorry for the poor Spanish though, having to put up with moaning Brits in such large numbers.

Sam Slater wrote:

> You got him there SB.
>
> To be fair, the Persians (post empire) did raid Israel, Judah
> and Turkey (including Christian Constantinople) while they were
> Islamic.
>
> You make good points though. Europe has invaded the middle east
> more times than the Islamic world invaded Europe............but
> it sure as hell wasn't through lack of trying.....remember that
> SB!

It used to be a pretty even thing, but in the past 500 years all the aggression has been one way. And from what I read of the Moorish empire, Spain was a far more civilised place under Islamic rule than under the Catholic Church (see "Inquisition").

This may come as a surprise to you, but at the time of Queen Elizabeth I.the Brits, were often in an alliance with the the grand Vizer of Morroco.
Close enough at times to mount joint attacks on catholic Spain.
So if you are going to go on about historic events in the past, read a few books first.