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Re: Please buy a poppy
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:11 am
by one eyed jack
Its threads like this that remind me people can be very human when the time calls for it.
Beeston boy I applaud you for thinking about this. If only a lot of people your age could stop to think the same way. I imagine you are in your 20's somewhere (dont ask me why. I just think that. I could be wrong though)
Most 20 somethings dont even know about the wars 1st or 2nd...believe me I've spoken to various people about this and it disgusts me that some people take the history of their own country for granted.
Re: Please buy a poppy
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:06 pm
by Robches
"I used to question buying the poppy as somehow supporting war. How wrong I was. The opposite. You are commemorating the huge sacrifice these men, often boys, made. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a moron."
At least you grew up, unlike that cunt Jon Snow, who still won't wear a poppy, the self-regarding stuck up nonce.
Re: Please buy a poppy
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:34 pm
by randyandy
warren zevon rip wrote:
> Didn't say that. Said that "suppression" of "scum" was exactly
> what they were fighting to prevent.
I think you'll find that they fought for the society and way of life that existed at the time and not for the scum now.
One of the 1st things I did when the Memorial was defaced was contact the British Legion and the above isn't just my response it 's also what they said to me.
Re: Please buy a poppy
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:41 pm
by Sam Slater
Logical, clear, well thought out, and very well put.
Re: Please buy a poppy
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:00 pm
by Pervert
Yeah, excellently argued.
Even though veterans of the second world war are still alive, it's difficult for my generation, let alone more recent ones, to imagine the sacrifice made by millions of predominantly young people during the great war, then again just over 20 years later.
There are people today who take the time and effort to let children know what happened in the major wars of the last century, why these people fought and died. Certainly, without the sacrifice many of us would now be speaking German---assuming, of course, that we would be allowed to live at all.
Visiting battlefields, watching footage of the events of both world wars, hearing the stories of those who lived through them . . . these bring the conflict to life.
Yes, there are those who belittle the sacrifice, who deface monuments and graves, who claim that history means nothing to their lives. They were gifted the right to be ignorant and insensitive by the very people they claim are unimportant. A supreme irony, but better than the alternative.
(My own feelings about the poppy campaign were ambivalent for many years because the fund was named after one of the butchers of the first world war. But the money given goes to deserving people, and my respect is for the real heroes of the wars, not Haig)