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Re: Arsenal v Birmingham
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:01 pm
by bristolian
"If if wasn't Taylor's challenge it would have been the next one, or some other challenge next week....maybe even in training".
You're joking, aren't you?
However you put it, it still sounds like your on the side of the tackler. let's get this straight- this lad will probably never play football again, I have just seen the tackle again and you see the bone shoot horizontally and make the sock bulge.
I don't think arguments about intent or "he's not a dirty player" wash, quite frankly. Which manager is ever going to say, incidentally, "I always thought this might happen. When I signed him he always struck me as a hard bastard". Dream on.
Ultimately, he has probably ended the career of another player. Malicious or not, that tackle is a horror show and, sadly, a pathetic 3 game ban is the punishment.
Re: Arsenal v Birmingham
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:14 pm
by Sam Slater
I'm not on the side of the tackler because there's no side to take.
Have you ever played football? Nobody connects with the ball everytime and players get hurt. I'm sorry for Eduardo; he looks another fantastic buy, that Wenger's famous for doing, but tackles happen.
Hell, did you see Dyer snap his leg in that cup game? The tackle connected with the ball, but still Dyers leg snapped at the other side of the ball!
Wenger (though he's retracted his statement,which I think is bollocks because he's never come out himself and said it, just sent someone else out to clean up after him) has more red cards uder his name than any other manager in the Premiership.
If you're going to punish Taylor then intent DOES have to play a factor, I'm sorry.
Tackling is an art, not a science, and so we cannot guarantee no more snapped legs. That's just the way it is.
Re: Arsenal v Birmingham
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:20 pm
by bristolian
Well argued. I was at that game you refer to when Joe Jacobson broke Dyer's leg. Just think that the result was so bad that it stands out from all the other so-called "mis-timed" tackles. Am Bristol Rovers season ticket holder so see a good number of poor/good/average refereeing displays also. Despite what someone said earlier, the big teams in the Premiership do get away with more and so standards are not the same.
Re: Arsenal v Birmingham
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:23 pm
by Dave Wells
That said it did remind me of quite a few of my tackles. But I put a lot of people out of games with some fearsome tackles ala Peter Storey, David Batty, Norman Hunter, Vinnie Jones etc but I never broke anyones leg ever.
Re: Arsenal v Birmingham
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:03 pm
by Arginald Valleywater
Seen worse. At school our senior side played a visiting team of Danish lads. One of our lads took their striker's kneecap clean off. Good ol days of metal screw in studs. Not much blood but several people threw up and a teacher fainted.
I know a local lad who now plays for Northwich Victoria Sponge and he broke his leg in 3 places and is playing again, renovating a house and playing single figure hcp Golf so there is hope.
I hope his career isn't over, a fine player. The look on the Birmingham faces showed it all, bad tackle but not intentional.
Football is a contact sport and as such injuries happen.
On the positive he won't be anywhere near an NHS ward, Arsenal will employ the best in the business to treat him, cost irrelevant.