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The BNP will always have a political platform colonel,with us being a democracy.But they'll never have power.No matter how much they whore themselves to our OAP's and folk that fought in the war for us to retain the freedom of Britain.

And i really don't believe this guff that the Union Jack has been taken off us by the BNP.No matter what Margaret Hodge says.If you regard yourself as British,you should be proud to wave your flag without the PC brigade do gooder's labelling you a racist.

John Gaunt revealed on his show on Friday that he would NEVER of appeared on Newsnight had of he had to of been in the same room as Griffin.Good call if you ask me.

Mike, I agree with every word. Never thought I'd say that.

There should be no platform for racist and/or fascist parties, Sam. I've come round to that view after seeing how those parties abuse our freedom, rights and democracies.

I doubt the wider british public would support Nick Griffin, I'm not old enough to remember Mosley mysell but the story was a long the same lines, the B.N.P. insult the intelligence of every day people, i.e. the man is full of himself, he's not even that subtle about it.

Good points Leo, but the problem with programs like this are that they are made by the same middle class white Oxbridge liberals who are unable to make the distinction between the white working class and the underclass. They cannot see that the real working class have aspirations and want to better themselves through work or education, and all of their policies (if politicians) and their attitudes (program makers) are formulated with the underclass in mind. The politicians in this country need to recognise that the genuine working class have aspirations - they want a better job, house , car whatever, while the useless, sackless, feckless underclass have no aspirations at all - they are just content to sponge of the rest of us. The liberal middle classes are unable to make that distinction, and this comes across quite clearly in programs like this. They need to approach these issues with the philosophy that there is nothing wrong with genuine working class values, and that they have a right to have concerns about their futures, without trying to imply a more sinister motive

Another thing about the BNP is that they're out to manipulate disgruntled, working class people like myself to vote for them.But i shall certainly not be counting on the BNP to better the life of myself and my family and as leo pointed out,the majority of working class people like myself will not either.

Did anyone see Rivers of Blood last night?
I sky+ it,so i will watch it later,purely for research and education purposes.

There was a programme on Friday night about a working man's club ooop North that i'd like to see as well.

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Did they have strippers? !wink!

No idea mate.To quote Arsene Wenger 'i did'nt see it'

Knowing the Beeb,i seriously doubt they did !grin!colonel wrote:

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About Enoch Powells "Rivers Of Blood" speech. Some may hail him as a prophet for that speech but to me it was basic common sense that when you move people in from poorer countries to start at the bottom of the ladder in "ghettos" (ok not as terrible as the countries they came from as Britain is great for basic facilities like clean running, cholera free water and the free medical and housing) you have to expect what I understand the "rat fighting to the top of the pyramid syndrome" it was going to have on society back then and still in effect now.

Enoch Powell is in all you gus that come on here bleating about this same subject screaming Enoch was right! Enoch was right!

Well if he was so damn right why did Britain let all those foreigners in off the "banana boats" then?

I'll tell you the reason why, and you can hail me as some kind of genius too, like Enoch Powell.

Because it was cheap bloody labour sent into tdo the jobs its very own patrons wouldnt do. I'd be cynical enough to say that it was a modern form of "civilised" slavery (a tad caustic an opinion yes but just my opinion).

Oh tTerry how can you say such things. well there is a reason for that too. If it was so bloody welcoming of the darkies on banana boats why was there so much racism back then? There a reason for that too. Too many british people didnt regard another man of a different colour as human with feelings like themselves for how insular they are.

The solution? or shoukld I say "The Final Solution" (Ah Hitler would be proud of me right now)...Go out today and find the nearest foreigner, polish, black, asian, turkish and say..."Oi mate. Can I buy you a drink?" Sit and talk. talk shit f you have to and I can guarantee within 5 minutes you'll come to the same opinion: "Thats wasnt bad"

If it doesnt work out and the person has an attitude then remember this: Being a dick head is universal and not indigenous to one colour or race of people.

There is no reason for ignorance. Stop bothering with stats and quit being part of the problem and be part of the solution.

And by the way...Enoch Powell was a fricken dinosaur whose vision of Britain was back in the of our mighty empire ruling those of colour but still got their arses kicked hard by an onslaught of "spear chuckers"

It is this confidence that was british undoing. These days, to keep the masses at bay, they use drugs and alcohol. I could go on but honestly I'm not bitter. I love Britain. I love my friends and my family and I generally get on with people but ask me my opinion and I am just going to keep it as real as what I know.

So dont try and bend this commentary that I am anti anything right? I just happen to read books and understand more about british history than most of the white youngsters coming up today who dont even know about the last war.

Hell, I probably know more about "Mein Kampf" than your average BNP knuckle head racist.

F...hell, Terry. That was genius, mate!

There is an element of the British [mainly but not exclusively English] who think we still have an Empire. Hence we can tell the Europeans to piss off and see the Euro as something we will never join- as opposed to something we won't join yet because the economics aren't right.

And I believe there is institutional racism- but it is classism too. A black OR a white working class kid will get done for dropping litter-and quite rightly so- but then we have the likes of Cameron and Johnson who used to smash up or support the smashing up of restaurants whilst they were at Oxford- and who then get welcomed with open arms into the City, the meejah where they can make money, get 'spun' as the saviour of Britain by their own press and then start sneering at porn producers, performers and viewers....!

I could go on, but you've got the message. Hopefully.