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[quote]these cars cause only a tiny fraction of the country's total CO2 emissions[/quote]

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Quite tight, bravo. Balls Up and Cooper are just the sort of arrogant snotty career politicians who are contemptuously lining their pockets and cementing their privileges at the expense of Joe Ordinary out there on Civi St. Nothing new there of course, but the thing that makes it particularly distasteful in their case is that they, like many more of their privileged ilk in the Labour Party, talk a load of progressive cack, while at the very same time squeezing the working man?s meagre pay packet and looking down on him because he happens to have different values and views to their pretentious middleclass ones. So, t?fuck wiv ?em I say!

Here, look. This is an article detailing their perks ?n? privileges and a picture of the smirking fuckers having a t?te-?-t?te ? no doubt conspiring to shaft Joe Average for more taxes so that they can ?progressively? expand their property portfolio and feel part of the crack when talking house prices with their rich ?socialist? luvie pals at one of those swanky cocktail parties. That ?They?ve got a fucking nerve!? is just one of the things I could say.







Officer Dibble







Officius Dibblus est amplus amor deus

"Alas, for all the pretence of fairness, the changes to income tax with the abolition of the 10% band have actually doubled the amount of tax paid by your average run-of-the-mill part-timers"

It's the working man on modest or average wages that always bears the brunt of any tax rises. Simply because they are probably living to the very limit of their means. An extra 10p on a liter of unleaded or a NuLabour stealth tax to fund chavy 15 year old mums and asylum seekers will make life much more difficult for them as it could easily push their household budget into the red. However, an extra 10p on petrol won't make a blind bit off difference to middleclass Labour MP's because, apart from their wholly undeserved 100K a year plus generous perks, many of them are independently minted. Their luvie pals in the arts, 'meeja' and industry won't mind either. The fashionable green taxs won't make a ha'peneth of difference to their bulging bank coffers. So no doubt tonight they?ll all be celebrating at some posh champagne do in the west end. They?ll be no riff-raff allowed in, though - just NuLabour and their luvies. Don?t let the fuckers get away with it!





Officer Dibble







Officius Dibblus est amplus amor deus

Actually, Dibbs, your 'average working-class man' can look forward to a 3% cut in income tax, lower comparative road fund licence, lower than expected fuel duty, the knowledge that his parents get up to ?200 a couple more in heating allowance and the new Savings Gateway, where every pound in savings is matched by the Government- starting 2010 for those on the former 10% band.

Actually that would depend on what the 'average working man' drives. Didn't Bliar claim he was wanting the support of 'Mondeo Man'?
Well the excise duty on a post-2001 1.8 litre Moondog - hardly the stuff of dreams car-wise (unless you're a cash-strapped cabbie) - will be going up from ?170 to ?270. That's not a good deal for Joe Average is it? What's that you say? Oh, of course he should trade it in (getting next to sod all) for some low-emissions MPV horror on chucky and reap the benefits of saving the planet!
And I've already stated what the 3% 'cut' in income actually means - a punch in the face to the part-time and low-paid and next to sod all for the average full-time worker, especially in the face of intelligence-insulting miniscule pay increases and chortling indifference from sniggering ministers.

So what would you have done then?

Do you mean if I were chancellor?
Well, I probably wouldn't be in that position, blessed as I am with an acute sense of moral right & wrong and a distaste for dishonest sloganeering - the right thing to do, in a decent society, would be to ensure all fiscal gains by the state are spent wisely - and not frittered away on stupid whims and projects or contemptuous attempts at social engineering. The whole point of modern government is the not to serve the country but to serve themselves - Ed Balls-Up is just the tip of a nasty iceberg. There seems to be a ridiculous and surreal expectation that, just as share holders demand that businesses grow at a massive rate year on year, so too must the government assume that every year they take a larger slice of our pie.
The matter of state income and expenditure is (obviously) far too complex to discuss here at length

So you haven't got a clue, but you still want to make personal attacks on politicians regardless?

You're saying that unless I possess a complete alternative plan of state income and expenditure one is not entitled to criticize a chancellor or government? If that's the case, little wonder this country's up the creak without a paddle. I've seen enough government-sponsered wastage and squandering in my time to know the whole circus is corrupt, rotten to the core. I do sort of respect your attempts to defend the indefensible but my objections to the way the country is run (objections that are not just limited to one political party - though this lot are taking 'champagne socialism' to new highs (or lows IMO) are not limited to todays budget, nor are they based on some bullshit I read in a newspaper - so don't brand me as 'clueless' just because you have chosen to clash with me.
As for 'personal attacks on politicians' I have not 'attacked' anyone, verbally or otherwise, that didn't warrant it. Balls-up is a contemptible arrogant prig, Bliar is a self-serving egomanic who has the dubious distinction of being the first UK Prime Minister who did the job solely to add to his CV, & Darling is a freak guilty of espousing rhetoric and bare-faced lies in order to con more money out of us, the taxpayers.
These people are supposed to be there to serve us, not the other way round.

dynatech wrote:


> As for 'personal attacks on politicians' I have not 'attacked'
> anyone, verbally or otherwise, that didn't warrant it. Balls-up
> is a contemptible arrogant prig, Bliar is a self-serving
> egomanic who has the dubious distinction of being the first UK
> Prime Minister who did the job solely to add to his CV, &
> Darling is a freak guilty of espousing rhetoric and bare-faced
> lies in order to con more money out of us, the taxpayers.
> These people are supposed to be there to serve us, not the
> other way round.
>


What a classic! Just read that paragraph- the first line and then the rest of it.

Now, let me tell you all about the Conservative Party.

Morally bankrupt. Nothing left to sell off. The slow-acting poison of Thatcher's Britain visible in our papers, our communities and at closing time. What a shower of shit they are. Scotland will not stay in a Union with a Tory government in London. Wales [ as well as Scotland] will never see a majority Tory government again.

Only we poor English must suffer the social ruin, decadence and destruction of a Tory government. By 2017, the damage of 1979-1997 might just be put right. It might. But another Tory government piles pain onto pain, destruction onto destruction and fear upon fear.

Have a nice day.