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That scary on so many levels!

The main one being that you did that 20 times )

max_tranmere wrote:

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Max, only rarely is a fatwa issued as a "death sentence". There are various types of fatwa, see here for example (okay it's wiki, but it explains it quite well):



From what I've read, this bloke isn't calling for "death to the suicide bombers" at all - merely warning them that they'll "burn in Hell" if they choose to go down that route because it's "unislamic" (something along those lines).

- Eric

max_tranmere wrote:

> There is a big article about this in the London Evening
> Standard today.
>
> A Muslim scholar will announce next Tuesday a Fatwa (death
> sentence) against suicide bombing in the name of Islam.

Fatwa does NOT mean a death sentence. It means an "edict".



> This is quite a turnaround, I am not suggesting that the average Muslim
> was ever in favour of suicide bombings in that name of their
> religion (or for anything else) but now we have someone coming
> out so vehmently anti the whole thing that those planning it
> will be sought out and done away with if they are thinking of
> doing it.
>

In what way is this a turnaround? Other Muslim clerics (both in the UK and elsewhere) have issued similar fatwas


> This is an encouraging thing I think, so long as they don't get
> the wrong people. Someone would have to have clearly stated it
> was their intention, then this man and his followers will
> presumably seek them out. What do people think about this? It
> may split the community, or on the other hand it could bring
> the community into line. I will look out for what he says next
> Tuesday and watch with interest.

Some younger, more gullible male Muslims will not take any notice... indeed they may even use this fatwa as an example of how older, more westernised Muslims have lost their way and argue that the terrorist war on the west must be redoubled to avoid even more Muslims being ensnared by western culture

If anybody thinks that those bastards will take note, fergit it. The bastards are just like the I R fucking A. They kill because they like it. In no way are they standing up for the defence of Islam, and if this cleric thinks otherwise he's as fucking stupid as they are.

well i totally agree with max and as for mr slater ive watched from afar for a while and you aint a tree hugging leftie by chance are ya mate? all i ever hear you spout is sticking up for what could be construed as the bad side of life ,the threats to our country and yep theres sam standing up saying anything to try and get them off the hook!
potential terorrists, immigrants who threaten our country, ohh and anybody who DARE say anything about a person from foreign lands is shot down and given the slater lets be nice or try to understand their values and beliefs etc..one word ...bollux! maybe you should try social work they seem good at trying to ignore and let things bypass them..just a thort

awgazzm69 wrote:

> well i totally agree with max...



...who in his original post made several wrong assumptions to say the least. Yet another ignorant bigot in our midst I think!!!!

Eric, if he gets a lot of support and is regularly featured in the media, then it will show to at least some young impressionable muslims that there is another way other than violence. Of course many young muslims grow up to not have that view of things but some do and maybe if this guy gets well known and respected then a few less will consider the violent path. Time will tell.

Bob, I think this is a turnaround as many muslims who were not even in favour of militancy in the name of their religion often would comment with an 'if, but and a maybe' as part of their 'condemnation' of it. There was very rarely absolute condemnation from even the moderates, you would hear 'this is wrong but I understand why they did it' kind of view. Total and utter comdemnation of it, like this guy does, is almost a new thing from the community.

Bob, that's a bit rude. Take a chill pill...

Rodders, its a start though.