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Re: Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi (1995)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:09 pm
by Bad Samaritan
Len801 wrote:

>
> =Perla phones Rocco and begs to see him right away and a
> meeting is set for later that evening.
>

In 'my version', Perla calls Rocco and they arrange a meeting. Then we see her arriving at the kick-boxing club/arena where Letizia and Rocco are present, to see Letizia squat and blow the guys gathered around her. She leaves after seeing this. Outdoor scene featuring Perla with Rocco and other guys is edited out to imply that Rocco gave her a rendez-vous at the club/arena.

Overall, this version presents an alternative storyline. It is basically about Rocco's efforts to bring 'shy' Perla to total sexual subjugation (expressed manifestly in the final scene) and his wager with Letizia on this issue ("Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi" line). Perla's only 'carnal' contacts with Rocco are on the oral level (i.e. fellatio and rimjobs), he never gets to fuck her.


Re: Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi (1995)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:29 pm
by Len801
Thank you Bad Samaritan for providing a breakdown of the version you have.
Probably things will become clearer when I will do a full analysis of the Part 2, which I hope to do soon and post it here.
I did not realize I had such a supposedly rare movie (my VHS rip is of above average video-audio, and in wide screen, but I don't know whether it was originally shot that way or whether it was cropped off that way to make it look like it was widescreen format originally).
As I said, Part I version I have is really nothing great, even by 1995 standards, Rocco does not come off as being very sympathetic and keeps driving the women around telling them he is going to take them to a "quiet" place supposedly for nice exciting time, but it is either in the middle of some bushes or dingy place, where a bunch of ugly looking males paw and cum all over their faces. If that's his idea of fun, I don't know.
Most of the scenes are shot at nighttime and outdoors and in very dark settings. The photo studio scene probably comes off the best, since it has a large bright area and well lit and with fewer participants. Monica is great looking and takes it just as well as Letizia (for my money I would have ditched Letizia and concentrated on Monica for lead actress). The black males in both scenes are used as just "filler", they really do not add anything to the proceedings and do not do much beyong getting blown.
The only "outrageous" act in the movie is the brief g/s at the photo shoot. Perla Mazza (pretty but not really that gorgeous, and she wears some really horrible looking lingerie outfits, which she probably got from the local Salvation Army) is not used to better effect. In her scene with Rocco in the car, it is so dark, she sports a very hairy pussy, and camera is not well positioned, and can't tell whether she is being fucked in the pussy or ass.
Was the movie really intended as a two-parter or did Rocco shoot so much material that he decided to put it out in two cassettes?. If you do some good editing, remove and trim all those driving and sightseeing scenes, you could fit both (uncut) versions in one DVD without any loss of continuity.

Re: Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi (1995)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:21 pm
by Bad Samaritan
You're most welcome. I hope you'll be eager to share that rare version of yours. !wink!

This film, in a sense, still stays as a mystery to me. The original release seems to be a m?lange of a number of 'experimental' scenes, with no integrity whatsoever. Probably, Siffredi later came with the idea to provide a leitmotiv with that "corruption of innocent Perla" stuff and making the phrase "Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi" a recurring line in this context. This may well be the reason behind re-editing the cut. Nevertheless, I must admit that this is accomplished in a rather competent way.


Re: Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi (1995)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:26 pm
by Bad Samaritan
By the way, I guess I forgot to mention that there is no golden shower at the photo shoot scene (Letizia and Monica) in 'my version'.

Re: Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi (1995)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:45 pm
by Len801
If it may interest you, in lieu of "sharing" the whole movie, I could post a couple of screencaps of the g/s photo shoot scene.
I will stave off further criticism of the movie, until I have had a better look at the second part. But it seems that from the various versions floating around that some scenes don't seem to make much sense. For instance Perla not being sexually involved in boxing ring scene at the end of Part I seems to be in Part 2, and so on. Anyway stand by for more developments.

Re: Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi (1995)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:50 pm
by jj
Len801 wrote:

> Anyway stand by for more developments.
The headache I had while reading the first six posts has now
developed into a full-on migraine : -)


Re: Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi (1995)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:09 pm
by Len801
Sorry JJ, did not mean to be the cause for this.
If you and others prefer I stop and not deal with Part 2, so be it.
No big deal for me, as it takes a long time to view/listen to a few seconds/minutes of film and jot down details.

Re: Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi (1995)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:29 pm
by jj
No, no; it was a joke. OK, a poor one : -((

PLEASE detail part 2, so that if/when I get that '240' DVD I will
at least have some vague idea of where I'm going.


Re: Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi (1995)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:22 pm
by Len801
Sorry missed the humor in that post.
The ErosDVD link you provided indicates the movie is no longer available. The notation under the price reads: Prezzo: 12,99 ? (IVA inclusa)
Esaurito----- "esaurito" means: out of stock. There is no clickable link to place an order. So you are out of luck for this title from that supplier, even if it is true they have the complete 2 parter.

Re: Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi (1995)

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:28 pm
by jj
No problem- I'll hopefully get it elsewhere.
The important thing is to know it exists.