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I didn't threaten violence as you did to me with your two phone calls..

Anything I do would be legal... And you bring up an argument from Oct 2001 yet again... Haven't you got anything new to come up with apart from my current argument with Sahara, which most of the industry have known about for ages...

Oh and Andrew

Why bring my private argument in to a thread about UK Sweet... Rather childish and I can tell you that Sahara isn't too happy with you now for doing that, as you have repeated a comment made to you, that was meant to be private... I don't think she expected you to post a private conversation whether on MSN or the phone, here or anywhere else...

As Sahara can tell you.. 99.999% of the time any posts made in her name were because she wasn't at a pc and was on the phone to me or even sitting next to me and the posts were always with her full knowledge. Any emails sent were with her knowledge as we discussed them or she was sent a cc. Sahara as everyone knows is someone I helped to promote from when ever till very recently.. You can trawl the net for posts made by me doing the promotion... A lot more than posts made in her name..

When we first argued in 2001, I didn't know about your rules... Zara, the model concerned was not computer literate and so I had no choice but type her words in to a post.. You acted then as you do now...

There you go I've answered you yet again.... What else can you accuse me of doing.. I will answer everything .. With the truth..

Please don't say anything about me being "controlling " again as I will not reply. I don't wish to comment on this subject in public. I told the persons concerned that I will never put them down on a public board as that's what my reply would require.

LATE EXTRA...

I haven't spoken to Zara since early 2002 so what's new there... DUH... In fact all you can do is talk about what happened in 2001/02.

The phone call to you was in reply to your post :

Author: Model Heaven
Date: 12-09-04 04:18

I called a mobile number and left a message while you made threats on my land line in reply... Not once but twice... That is just a little more harassment than calling a mobile..

Finally...

I have not attacked you personally in any way in this thread but as usual you had to make it personal. This was the reason you were banned before...

Ummm Andrew...

First of all you know full well that Allan is a joke.... To everyone, everywhere. So don't make that the reason for you bringing private conversations in to the public arena. You were not mentioned...

If you had made a real post then nothing would have been said... It looked like one of Allans and you can't deny that ... No email address attached to the profile is an Allan special. Why didn't you have webmaster@modelheaven there ? If you had it would have been obvious to all that it was you posting and nothing would have been said.

I will not discuss Sahara any further as I feel that she has become involved in your problem with me, due to your mentioning her, and so leading to me to reply... I believe as many others do, that arguments between friends and/or biz partners in this small industry should be kept off public boards as it does no ones image any good...

I apologise to all for my having to reply to Andrew here... I have tried to point out real facts in as polite a way as possible... And I hope that this thread will be deleted asap and I can go to bed... LOL

Yeah!!.... but!!......... no but!!!... She said......Yeah.. But!!..
I'm a professional... yeah... but... no.

Andrew

I won't reply here about the situation regarding Sahara as I feel that would be unethical of me.

You do not know any of the circumstances regarding our friendship, apart from an MSN chat and phone call between the two of you.. That does not and cannot cover 18 months of two persons being friends.

You can goad me as much as you like, but I will say nothing here about Sahara or any work we did together. It's not your business or anyone else to be read on a public forum. If she or I discuss anything it would be on the phone, MSN, ICQ or by email, as she did with you, and I know she had no thoughts that you would make anything she said to you public. She asked you a question and you replied to her. That one question is only a tiny part of the eighteen months.. I doubt she could or would have had the time to tell you everything ... She only related to you regarding the current situation..

Just remember there are three sides to every story... Her side... His side and.... The truth, which is half way between the two. You have heard the minimum amount of her side and you feel that you can be the judge and jury.. I don't think so.... It is just an excuse for you to make more very personal attacks on me..