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Have put the UKAP link out on AITA Twitter and Facebook page

They are not Producers from UKAP or ATIA, we can only warn them of their dodgy doings & hope they heed the warning.

Completely mad, even more so now that this sort of thing is happening:



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videokim wrote:

> They are not Producers from UKAP or ATIA, we can only warn them
> of their dodgy doings & hope they heed the warning.
>
>


I would hope they have been warned directly, and not just through the medium of a general message board post. If UKAP is going to make any kind of claim to be a representative body of the industry, it needs to be more proactive on this matter than simply posting on the internet where theor comments may not be seen or heeded.

If you know who they are enough to threaten 'naming and shaming', you know, or can find out, how to get in touch with them (former employees and agents of the News of the World may be able to help with this if you're stuck !grin!)

Sorry, posted a link with same story before I read yours!

Hi guys. Sorry, I've been away most of today driving. Some interesting points caught my attention here:

The "producers" as far as I know have websites. I promised I wouldnt go public on the basis of the information I got which is why I went about this the way I did. ironically the two parties that do post on forums have avoided posting on this particular topic and I dont wish to start a wildfire of speculation as to who is repsonsible. The warning has been read, I can bet you on it. I hope that it is heeded and that it is the end of it but if it persists, we will know because we dont have to look into it to find out.

Nothing remains a secret in this business for too long.

Approaching them directly would only be met with lies

Litigation is a tool used to frighten off people from persuing things further. Ive been threatened with it by people over the years and I'm still waiting for those to make good on their threats.

UKAP is not in the business of policing the adult industry. Despite what people think we do not meddle in anyones business but if their business practice interferes with ours/ yours in ways like this then we will let them know and providing we have solid evidence or a witness willing to come forward then we will persue it vigorously with the industrys interests in mind.

The activities of those two parties leaves them wide open to attack but rather than just stop at those two, we may as well send a warning to everyone else who may be thinking of going the same way.

If you want to be bloody minded about it then expect the same back in return. We will just name you is about as far as it will go and its nothing more personal than that.

Phil Solo wrote: I would hope they have been warned directly, and not just through the medium of a general message board post. If UKAP is going to make any kind of claim to be a representative body of the industry, it needs to be more proactive on this matter than simply posting on the internet where theor comments may not be seen or heeded.


I've explained my reason for not getting in touch with them in my last post. UKAP really represents its members in the association and only being proactive on this because their business practices threatens to affect our business.

Why should it be left to UKAP and AITA to be proactive? Many people outside of associations in the past have known of dodgy practices and allowed it to continue by not even reporting it

If every body came together on things like this, then it wouldnt be able to happen the way it has.

The way I see it, UKAP are proactive in that we installed a no show forum to report producers and models. The odelas have their own forum to discuss among themselves the dodgy people to avoid and now we have to think about how best to deal with this.

I would say we are more proactive than anyone at this point

Have put the UKAP link out on AITA Twitter and Facebook page


Thanks Lowerloft! !happy!

one eyed jack wrote:

> Litigation is a tool used to frighten off people from
> persuing things further. Ive been threatened with it by people
> over the years and I'm still waiting for those to make good on
> their threats.
>
planeterotica wrote:

That may be the case Terry but imagine a scenario where a model who was believed to be working bareback without certs was publicly named and shamed and then that model decided to sue for loss of earnings you could be looking at ?1000s.

As you well know a female model has the potential to earn a ?1000+ per day so the no win no fee lawyers would take up on this, of course the scenario could also be that by claiming a female model works bareback without certs her earnings could increase, therefore naming and shaming could backfire because instead of putting a stop to the practice it could actually encourage it especially with the ammount of girls offering their sevices on AW...

The only good thing at least the NOTW wont be running with the story, well not at the moment anyway.

Just thought I'd add a couple of thoughts on the legal aspects on all this. As far as suing, prosecuting or shouting "I'll see you in court" s concerned, I'm afraid it's all a non starter I'm afraid for those in UK porn. A no win no fee lawyer wouldn't touch any of us with a barge pole. Just think about trying to prove in court that Mr or Mrs X infected you with something. Unless both parties had been locked up in the same room under guard for probably 4 months (the max incubation time for most SDI's) to prove they'd not screwed anyone else and of course you'd both been tested before being locked up,your case would be torn apart, if it even got that far, which it wouldn't.

As far as suing for, "Loss of earnings" is concerned, a UK judge would collapse with a heart attack at the idea of this, after having pissed himself laughing! In English Law, no legal agreement or contract can exist if the terms of it include either party performing an, "Immoral act" as a condition of performing the contract.

So in layman's terms as soon as someone has got his dick out and he's waving it around near a girl, it becomes in a legal sense, "An immoral" act, so no enforceable agreement has taken place. In fact if it ever got to court both parties would probably get locked up for contempt of court! lol

I'm afraid the good folk of porn inhabit the Wild Frontiers of society and must try to self regulate abuses of voluntary agreements. All these fools do, who abuse our, "Codes of practice" is bring us to the attention of the authorities, who in turn may consider setting up yet another quango to attempt to regulate us and coin some money, like the ADVOD "mob".