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Well, none of them is going to be a contender for 'Miss Hour-glass figure Of The Year' award, are they? Indeed at least one of the pictures used to illustrate them on this site shows evidence of protruding ribs! But my comments were not directed at them specifically, rather the thin porn-bird phenomena in general. If anyone did find my comments insulting, so what? (I'm an unconventional, kinda left field, P R Mann) It might give both them, photographers, producers and publishers pause for thought as they are swept along by the hype of popular culture. It might give them the jolt they need to break free from the blinkered path and rocky road many in the Brit porn biz seem to be traversing.

I know one of the young ladies you mentioned (Kellemarie) quite well. She is a regular and very welcome visitor to P R Mann towers. Kellemarie is a sweet little thing, very agreeable and easy to get on with. She's also very beautiful. The camera does not lie and Kellemarie is one of those rare girls who it is difficult to take a crap photo of - every snap seems to look like a David Bailey, even if taken on one of his 'off days.'

But of late Kellemarie has shed a lot of weight - though she still retains her Nikon pleasing beauty. I tackled her about this and she said that she hadn't really noticed and that she couldn't understand it, insisting that she had a huge appetite and was always stuffing herself with food. However, on every occasion that I proffered a biscuit or similar light snack she always declined - which started very faint alarm bells in the back of my mind. I trust that by the time of her next visit, in 6-8 weeks time, my suspicions will have proven to be totally unfounded - I'm quite fond of Kellemarie.

But anyhow, I don?t hire Kellemarie on the basis that she is going to induce hordes of geezers to reach for their cheque book with one hand while involuntarily wanking off with the other, because at the end of the day it takes ample tits 'n' bums to do that, I hire her on the basis that she is very decorative and aesthetically pleasing and will give any promotional material an air of porno class. Oh, and another thing, listening to her soft Welsh lilt is like listening to a sirens song?

P R Mann

Not wishing to offend anybody, but young men watching porn is a pity, you should really use the porn as education and then try and go after the real thing. Seems like something a bit more erotic as well as exceedingly dirty might be more your cup of tea. Here's a run down as I see it:

USA. Very glossy, fake boobs, bland, not too imaginative.
German. Bland, lots of fake audio dubbing, predicatable non-scenarios.
Danish. Their films were always fun, but a bit mass produced.
French. Very explicit and very erotic. The best of the lot.
Can anybody add to this list?

I seem to remember someone mentioning Kellemarie's weight loss in an earlier thread. I thought at the time it might be a dangerous hint that she should go for a boob job (please God, no!) but just lately I've seen some pics on one of her Yahoo groups that support your comments. She is still quite young (alledgedly), so maybe she's just losing her puppy fat a little late.

Whatever the cause I preferred her as she was previously, so you see I'm not a fan of ultra-thinness for its own sake. It's true that in general I like slim, small/medium-breasted girls, but on the other hand I'm also a fan of Adele Stephens and Charmaine Sinclair and have a liking for Cathy Barry, Fleur Rose and Suzie Wildin!

You say that the fans of small-breasted girls congregate on this site, and so they do, but so do the fans of big-breasted girls - there's no other comparable forum for such discussion. Doesn't prove anything. In my workplace, when comments are being made about models in newsrags & mags, most of the favourable remarks seem to go to the small/medium brigade.

To move things into a different arena, how many of the current crop of female singers/groups that people go ga-ga over have big tits? Kylie? Atomic Kitten? Girls Aloud? The only one that readily comes to mind is Danni Minogue and that's only cos she's had the op.

All this is an awfully long-winded way of drawing attention to the fact that I said "not necessarily big" in my original post. There's room for all sorts in porn as in everything else, variety being indisputably the spice of life.

German bland??? Most German porn I see is quite extreme.

Yes German porn is extreme, but the stupid acting, one minute we are sitting on a sofa next minute shagging plus the dubbed on moaning and groaning is pretty insulting. Closer to a sexual assualt really and not too sexy really. Just my opinion though.

You left out British, which of course, is the best of the lot IMHO

Sorry Ace but see all the above comments that rather suggests that brit porn (like the rest in my opinion) is lacking too. mff threesomes dont happen cos it costs more simple as that...girls get more money than guys generally. While this is personal opinion I would rather see as few guys as possible and as many girls, you only watch porn to see the girls so why have what your paying for outnumbered 10 to 1 by guys who you only put up with cos its necessary! Its also much easier as a performer to perform when you are the centre of attention for a bunch of girls!!!

Like most guys mff is my fantasy, even just 2 girls together...the more guys that get in the way of that, the more it loses its appeal to me. And yes, lots of tattoos, beer bellies and a run down coucil flat doesnt do anything for me either!

Can't disagree with any of that, but not what I would call "bland".

Well bland in the sense that it looks like daytime TV with genitals. German porn often makes me think of somebody slicing bacon, it's so mechanical.

I like the reference to bacon - they do tend to ham it up a bit!