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No! It will be chants of "Death to The West". We may be entering a very dangerous period for tyhe whole world.

That's insulting: it's not a question of guts, it's a question of opportunity.

Sorry yes your right, getting my countires mixed up there. Thank you.

I'd never think that we didn't get involved in Rwanda for that reason.



I KNOW it.......

I think you might be right Steve. I think it could well escalate problems and it seems a lot of people agree including poloticians in Tonys government.

And its interesting that the contracts to rebuild Iraq are only allowed to go to US firms. And I am sure the people who are in favour of bombing Iraq will be the same people who complain about the inevitable flood of refugees this war will create. If the taxpayers of this country are happy to pay for the war they have no right to piss and moan about how much it will cost to clear up the mess afterwards.

Yep that too. Anything that helps solve the situation. Just wish to God that too many lives on both sides are not lost.

And your seas(baltic) and mountains(balkans)!

He's under 24-hr guard in one of series of fortified palaces, and there are several 'doubles' to further confuse would-be assassins.
Which is why it would have been a good idea to send the SAS in to do the job, instead of all this militaristic hoo-ha.

while certainly not disagreeing specifically with any of the points that you make (i'm not sure about rwanda but perhaps, i don't know enough about it), it can almost become of form of imperialism by culpability, if responsibility for all the social woes and internecine conflicts upon the planet, are laid at the feet of the west.

arabs, africans, asians, etc, etc (along with caucasians, of course) were abusing and killing one another long before the europeans showed up. that doesn't absolve us of blame for those situations which we so readily exploited, perpetuated and, oft times, created but to place the west in a position of vandalistic omnipotence, as some liberal critics are wont to do, is no healthier as a geo-political outlook, than the once prevalent but now blindingly bogus assumption that we were in some way genetically and culturally superior to those we happily lorded it over.

for what it's worth, i'm of the bono school of thinking when it comes to blair: in my opinion he's sincere about the action he's taking but i believe him to be sincerely wrong. consequently, i'm happy to declare that i was one of those sappy 'appeasers' on the least exclusive march in british history the other week and i'll be heading into town for the next one, when the flares go up.

Its Blairs sincere belief that he is right that worries me too. Sincerely held beliefs can be the most dangerous. That quote from the front page of springs to mind.

Perhaps my point about Rwanda was badly worded. It just seems to me that The West is keen to go to war for financial or territorial/strategic reasons but a lot less keen if its just human life of foreigners at stake. I take on board your point about liberal critics unintentionally placing us as in some way superior