Tarantino's latest gem

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jj
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Re: Tarantino's latest gem

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Straw man in para 1: you've assumed/implied (a) that the 'hammering' is to a degree non-consensual, and (b) that the domination is the thrill, rather than the sex act itself.
As to the second para, I don't necessarily exclude porn (or my and others' reaction to it), from the argument, except to stress that in visual media the sex 'perpetrated' is upon a (more or less) willing 'victim', which is almost never the case with violence. Leeanne is a poor example upon which to base a case, as in past discussions we've agreed that she was significantly damaged before her entry into the business: and I feel it's a safe assumption that the vast majority of porn actors enter, and eventually leave, the profession as functioning human beings.
Neither do I wish for represenations of violence to be banned: as you know, I abhor censorship per se, irrespective of its ultimate futility.
My complaint was more that the presentation and consumption of gratuitous violence as 'entertainment' is possibly damaging (or a symptom of damage already done) in or to a proportion of both purveyors and consumers: a cheap strategy for film-makers (press button 'A', get reaction 'B'), and also pretty juvenile.
I just wish as a species we'd grow up a bit.

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Re: Stephen King

Post by jj »

Tommyknockers, both book and miniseries (the latter aided by a certain T Lords)......and Shawshank was brilliant too.
Just finished watching (the quite violent) Boudicca on IT-bloody-V. But it's alright: it was HISTORICAL violence. Oh, and Frances Barber got her tits out for a new World Record 5,000th time.
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Re: Tarantino's latest gem

Post by alec »

magoo wrote:


> Joe D'Amato made a hardcore porn/gory horror.
> In his career he made many horror films and many porn films.
> Trying to combine the two was a bad idea.

Except that the porn/horror films of c. 1980 were much better films, i.e. more erotic, than his non-horror but very formulaic porn of the 90s (except for Adoloscenza, Don Salvatore and Leopard which include an element of tease). Their eroticism did not depend on the horror. See Porno Holocaust, Porno Esotic Love and Sesso Nero, fast forward through the gore (mainly in the first one) to the porn scenes, usually featuring Annj Goren, the woman who should have played Emmannuelle.
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