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Re: Chavs strike again

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:11 am
by Rude Boy
Nick Leeson isn't a bad man he just fucked up spectacularly. What he did was naive, stupid and caused huge amounts of grief but it can't be likened to murdering someone, it was "Only" money.

I'd argue that his superiors should have pulled him up on his wild behaviour long before he fucked up beyond the point of no return but they didn't. Silly bugger!

Re: Chavs strike again

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2004 11:48 pm
by Deuce Bigolo
Rude Boy wrote:

> Nick Leeson isn't a bad man he just fucked up spectacularly.
> What he did was naive, stupid and caused huge amounts of grief
> but it can't be likened to murdering someone, it was "Only"
> money.

Self Preservation/Greed would have been his primary motivation
because if he had come clean his reputation and future in the industry would have been all but destroyed.He knew what he was doing

I beg to disagree about its ONLY MONEY.
Money is what makes the world tick and those handing it with the carrot & stick approach...IMF,World Bank etc...don't give a shit if millions are made unemployed or starving in the short term just as long as all the economic factors are met so they can make the loan payments
and we wonder why people turn to terrorism

>
> I'd argue that his superiors should have pulled him up on his
> wild behaviour long before he fucked up beyond the point of no
> return but they didn't. Silly bugger!

Judging by the facts it would appear he was in control of everything with no watchdog of anykind



Yes but his superiors all have unreachable stretch targets but if they do meet them then its bonus time so they ride the dealers hard
which has nothing to do with sustainable returns but quick massive profit

As Warren Buffet said if you make a 25% return annually on your investment your doing well but these bank clowns seem to think 25% a year is laughable because they know better

A recent case with the once high flying National Australia Bank highlighted
that these practices are still happening...AUS370 million written off
4 dealers sacked...their immediate superior....a couple of board members and the managing director...sometimes big heads role but of course they would all have left with a nice little earner as is the executive way

cheers
B....OZ

Re: Chavs strike again

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 7:24 am
by Pianaman
"What should happen to people who collect "handouts" from the state. All those people claiming pensions and childrens tax credits - should they all get a good kicking, the grasping scum. "

You mean like the Royal Family?

Re: Chavs strike again

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 10:19 am
by Illinoisblue
"Which nationality's response to "vermin" do you prefer - is the good old-fashioned Germanic solution more to your liking?"

The German response no, the Tony Martin response yes.


Re: Chavs strike again

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 3:22 pm
by Officer Dibble
Yeah, Tony Martin, top man. I reckon he deserves a knighthood, I trust the PM won't overlook him in this year's honours. 'Sir Tony of Purdy' has a kind of ring to it, don't ya' think?


Officer Dibble

Re: Chavs strike again

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 3:26 pm
by steve56
is he out now been released i mean?

Re: Chavs strike again

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 3:43 pm
by Rude Boy
Yes he came out earlier this year, came out of prison I mean...he didn't proclaim to be a homosexual!

About fucking time too, the bloke should never have been banged up in the first place.

Re: Chavs strike again

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 3:45 pm
by steve56
no i agree it was self defence.

Re: Chavs strike again

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:57 pm
by Pervert
Strange how the Americans villified Robert Ford for shooting an unarmed robber in the back, while we praise one.

Re: Chavs strike again

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 9:11 pm
by Deuce Bigolo
Maybe on the surface thats true but anybody thats spent time on the inside
knows that a 71/2 year stretch even reduced for good behavior is HELL

No sentence could recompense a family for the death but then we have to decide what kind of a society we really want

Eye for an Eye or Punishment & Rehabiliatation

The choices are pretty stark and none leave a good feeling....you either Kill them/lock them up for life,stick with the current system or try properly funding prevention programs and I don't mean Welfare handouts

If you don't give those people that are down & out hope there is NONE for all of us IMO

cheers
B....OZ