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Re: I still call "bullshit" on this letter...heres
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:30 pm
by Red Triangle
What's wrong with government running healthcare? That's exactly what a government should be doing - running a healthcare system that provides adequate free healthcare for their citizens, in particular for the less well off who cannot afford private health insurance. Its a basic right to have access to free heathcare for anyone living in a socially responsible society.
Re: I still call "bullshit" on this letter...heres
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 7:39 pm
by mart
Oh dear Redtriangle, you have fallen for all that Marxist bullshit. In any free society citizens should be free to die miserably in abject poverty.
Mart
Re: I still call "bullshit" on this letter...heres
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:33 pm
by Deuce Bigolo
Thats happening right here and now in the US of A with their wonderful private system as I understand it
Which explains why employer sponsored health insurance is more keenly sort than a decent wage
People living well below the poverty line are having to choose between basic necessities and seeinga Doctor for treatment
At the very least there should be universal health care for those living below the poverty line
Many just die in silence from conditions that are curable...a sad indictment on the land of the free
Then again....human population 6 billion and growing
It would seem life is cheap EVERYWHERE
cheers
B....OZ
Re: I still call "bullshit" on this letter...heres
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:52 pm
by mart
Btw Deuce, I've emailed you about State pension in Oz.
Mart
Re: I still call "bullshit" on this letter...heres
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 5:25 am
by Red Triangle
A lot of corporations are cutting their workforces so they don't have to provide healthcare to employees. Employees are then hired from temp agencies like Manpower to replace those made redundant - so the corporations get a cheaper workforce who they don't have to pay health benefits to. You have people in the US with full time jobs working for some corporations that are considered temporary workers, despite working for years for them, some over 10 years. Microsoft is the template for this type of employment.
Re: I still call "bullshit" on this letter...heres
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 7:50 am
by Deuce Bigolo
Management will do anything to get their yearly profit bonus
Its one thing to reduce costs but at the expense of your employess is bizarre
I can imagine Morale must be almost non-existant and with the spectre of jobs being out sourced overseas you wonder where it will all end
In the end if we the employees all agree to work for peanuts it should be OK
cheers
B....OZ
Re: I still call "bullshit" on this letter...heres
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:12 pm
by mart
Of course it won't end at all the jobs being outsourced. The top brass, otherwise known as the snouts in the trough, will make sure their jobs are secure.
Correction, if their jobs are outsourced, they all get platinum diamond-studded handshakes.
Mart
Re: I still call "bullshit" on this letter...heres
Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 3:52 pm
by Deuce Bigolo
Gold handshakes are oh so yesterday
cheers
B....OZ