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Mojo. Now I know you should know that WE don't have control of our own tax dollars (or pounds in y'all's case)!

What trips me out here is the victim who got shot came to the UK for a better life as did the criminal. The way it looks is that it is easier for blacks to commit crimes against each other not saying that I wish that on anybody else. It's just an easy opportunity. Same goes here in the US.

Well, would you credit it? Look what's happened in the last 12 hours since we've been discussing this issue.



Isn't it about time we thought about removing the hand-wringing fuckers who are allowing, and indeed encouraging, this kind off thing to happen in our midst?



Officer Dibble

The trouble here is our employers are still living in the Victorian era. They're always looking for money for nothing. They don't care if the immigrant is a criminal, just so long as they keep wages at the bare minimum and their profits sky high, just so they can buy their next Jag or big country estate. I mean, they don't care about the welfare of the immigrant. They just use them to get rich quick by undercutting the incomes of the native Brits.

You seen the film Trading Places? Hear what the rich old guys thought of Eddie Murphy when they were in private conversation? Same here. They wouldn't let them anywhere near the country if they thought they were going to take their jobs or move in next to them. They only let them in 'cause they know they're just going to compete for working-class jobs and move into working-class housing.

Oh no, you misunderstand. To me (working-class), it's a matter of "us and them" in this country. "Us" being the exploited majority and the "Them", the exploiting minority up the top (big business, the government and their lackeys). I don't and never believed in the slave trade or the Empire. The working-class got sod all outa the Empire. If anything, the working-class were treated as bad as the slaves during that era! Ever heard of Victorian work houses or children being sent down mines and up chimneys? You musta heard of the story of Oliver Twist? That was our lot during the era of the British Empire. The Crown Jewels and the rest of the spoils of the British Empire? Send 'em back to where they came from!

The people who allow these "people" into the country will never be effected by this crime. They only get the profits from lower wages for the worker and higher profits for themselves, so why should they care what happens in working-class neighbourhoods?

[quote]I would like to think that we could still be like that and offer an opportunity to anybody who wants to come and build a life here.[/quote]

Forgive my ignorance on this as I'm unsure but..... Do/does you/anyone know of a more multicultural, welcoming, helpful nation than the United Kingdom?

Free health, free prescriptions, free education, free housing and benefits along with free/cut price transport, and if all that isn't to our/their satisfaction, free representation in court.

I don't think any Brit (whatever colour) wants to deny a genuine individual a better chance in life if they're a friendly, law abiding, hard working person. I do think we should have tighter controls about who we accept though. We are bringing more and more people into the country from places where life is cheap and life sentences in a cosy UK prison with a soft bed, clean water, libraries and food is in no way something they'd fear.

Thats OK Terry, its a phrase thats used all too readily for scum like those responsible.
Next time I'm sure Fayes horse will kick you on behalf of animals everywhere !wink!