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No Graham, nothing to do with that, I was refering to the 'respect' thing, you had posted "you have to earn respect" I just wondered why! respect should be a naturally occuring thing between humans, but as I pointed out, it is now used as an excuse to murder someone... sorry if you read it the wrong way..
Liz

warren zevon rip wrote:
>
> Well, that's exactly the reason the death penalty doesn't work
> as a deterrent.

The death penalty is not a deterrent, it's the ultimate punishment for committing the ultimate crime!

one eyed jack wrote:
>
> Mind you,people like those aint much different to certain
> keyboard warriors who lurk in dark rooms making threats to kill
> certain people in the adult industry. Can anyone think who I'm
> talking about?

1). Religious funda-mentalists.
2). Religious zealots.
3). Religious nutters.

One could argue that the death penaly definitely works, once your necks broken and you have stopped breathing, it's worked!

Lizard wrote:

> One could argue that the death penaly definitely works, once
> your necks broken and you have stopped breathing, it's worked!

Or indeed if the head has been removed!

warren zevon rip wrote:
>
> On that logic, the executioner would the be executed...ad
> infinitum.

An executioner is not a murderer! They are carrying out the law in regards to executing criminals who has been found guilty of murder in a court of law.

At least a murderer can argue "heat of the moment",
> diminished responsibility, etc.

Yes, they do use this standard response in an attempt to escape the hangman's noose!

- the executioner has no such
> excuse,

The executioner doesn't require to give an "excuse" because they are carrying out the law!

and is arguably then more guilty of committing a crime
> against humanity.

Are you suggesting that murderers who have been found guilty in a court of law have human rights?

Lizard wrote:

> No Graham, nothing to do with that, I was refering to the
> 'respect' thing, you had posted "you have to earn respect" I
> just wondered why! respect should be a naturally occuring thing
> between humans, but as I pointed out, it is now used as an
> excuse to murder someone... sorry if you read it the wrong
> way..
> Liz

planeterotica wrote:

Well thanks for clarifying that Lizzie but i still believe that respect should be earnt not through violence but more in the way of people doing good to others who are less fortunate than themselves and iam not talking about scroungers, i am thinking of people who are recently berieved as i was a few years ago, i lost my Mother and Father and younger brother in less than a year and thats wants some hacking and dont say that things come in threes becauase i well know it, but to the point if it hadnt been for the good people who stood by me through that sad time i dont think i would have made it and these people i will always respect.