Re: The most pointless family photo in the world
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:26 am
south australia........
[quote]No. Wrong. It states that they must go about a muslim way of life within th e state that they are living in a peacefull way.[/quote]
Yes, it does say this about Muslims living in a 'foreign land'. But you missed lots out magoo.
1.1 Potency of politics in Islam
It is a well-known fact that Islam has a value-system applicable to government and politics. This is a powerful theme that raises spontaneous opposition from the West due to the West's own historical experience of the renaissance when the state and church were painfully separated. However, there a number of reasons which compel Muslims, even those who are aware of the Western experience, to consider politics, even modern politics, as being part of practical Islam. These are:
Islam does not separate the secular from the spiritual2. It is a comprehensive way of life. To this effect, it provides man with theoretical and practical guidance covering all aspects of life, of which the political aspect is but one. The world, in its view, is a place of preparation of the soul for the hereafter and that this preparation fulfils the purpose of creation of man. One cannot therefore consider parts of worldly life as having no meaning with regards to that final purpose.
The majority of Islamic injunctions apply to the Islamic ummah3 rather than the individual. The importance of society and laws governing social interaction in Islam therefore becomes obvious. The rulership of such a society requires Islam to provide guidelines for the establishment of a just government and the running of the state machinery.
When Prophet Muhammad established the first Islamic state in the city of Madinah, he personally laid down principles by which an Islamic state would run, including the unity of religious, political and legal institutions. The idea of that original Islamic state, governed by a perfect ruler enjoying direct communion with God has remarkable potency for the Muslim even after fourteen hundred years.
The Islamic world was ruled for at least five centuries by some form of Islamic government partly or fully based on the original idealised model. A vast amount of material for such governship thus exists in the classical literature. There is a great attraction in looking into these texts to find means of developing the methods then used into something that would be applicable in contemporary times.
[quote]The Bible says its Christians duty to spread the Word of The Lord etc. Hence the Gospels and stuff. We the white christians caused mayhem to spread the word of our religion.[/quote]
Now what is your agenda on entering the adjective 'white' within that last sentence? Looking back up the thread, no one has mentioned 'brown muslims'.
Of course Christians are supposed to spread the word, but Europe has had the renaissance and we've seperated the spiritual and secular. (not enough to my satisfaction at times, but we get by).
Lets remember that within an Islamic state, though non-muslims should be respected and treated well, they're not allowed positions of authority, and are denied to meddle in state and public affairs. They are an underclass until they convert to the ways of the last Prophet.
Islamic followers -not all- should aspire to a state where the spiritual and state rule is as one. This is becoming a problem also amongst evangelical christians in America, and are being looked upon as a political threat.
[quote]And they are not!! Muslim women still have to remove their face cover for passport photos. And Walls Ice Cream sacked a Sikh who refused to shave his beard off.[/quote]
Sikhism isn't an issue here, and radically different to Islam, so again, what's the agenda on bringing it up? Could it maybe be that most Sikhs have brown skin? You seem to be setting yourself up within this debate as if arguing with a white supremacist (due to inserting 'white' when referring to christians earlier). Please don't try and make this a racial issue, just so you can grab the moral high ground; setting me up as some sort of nazi. It's unfair, impolite, and a cheap & easy way to try and undermine someones views.
As for Muslim women being forced to remove their face covering upon checking passport photos; it's as it should be then.
[quote]Right if this keeps up i am off.[/quote]
I don't know why you're threatening leaving just because we have different opinions. Would you like everyone in the forum to conform to your way of thinking just to make you happy?
Stop being such a baby.