Re: Yobs murder another dad.
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:00 pm
I don't know the individual case, but anybody mistakenly kills another where there's no intent, has to be deemed accidental. I know these cases are instances where people feel passionately about, and someone who kills whilst doing a robbery 'is' more liable for an innocent's death than pure random accident, but it isn't murder if there was no intent.
Thankfully, most yobs who rob people are not murderers - even the gun-toting robbers.
A murderer is someone who specifically aims to kill. A murderer has no value for human life, whilst a robber is only interested in financial gain. Both are wrong, but clearly different.
Manslaughter is probably the correct verdict for someone killing another during a crime where there was no intent to kill. Now, if the sentence length for manslaughter isn't deemed worthy punishment, then the actual sentence length is wrong, not as to which crime was committed.
On a side note: I'd find it horrid if in 2007 we start dealing out death penalties again. What right has anyone to decide who lives and dies? The feelings of wanting someone's death as punishment, and actually carrying out such a thing are miles apart for me personally. I'm not saying I'm incapable of killing -I think we all are under the right circumstances- but I'm sure that within a rational, reasonable, stable state of mind, I'd be unable to become an executioner either directly as a killer, or indirectly sitting on a jury.
When I've seen documentaries based upon US killers awaiting death, and the locals are sat outside, hollering, cheering, and eating sandwiches, I always wonder who's the more simian and beastly; the one time, deluded murderer, or the -supposed- 'ordinary' folk, clapping and cheering?
Thankfully, most yobs who rob people are not murderers - even the gun-toting robbers.
A murderer is someone who specifically aims to kill. A murderer has no value for human life, whilst a robber is only interested in financial gain. Both are wrong, but clearly different.
Manslaughter is probably the correct verdict for someone killing another during a crime where there was no intent to kill. Now, if the sentence length for manslaughter isn't deemed worthy punishment, then the actual sentence length is wrong, not as to which crime was committed.
On a side note: I'd find it horrid if in 2007 we start dealing out death penalties again. What right has anyone to decide who lives and dies? The feelings of wanting someone's death as punishment, and actually carrying out such a thing are miles apart for me personally. I'm not saying I'm incapable of killing -I think we all are under the right circumstances- but I'm sure that within a rational, reasonable, stable state of mind, I'd be unable to become an executioner either directly as a killer, or indirectly sitting on a jury.
When I've seen documentaries based upon US killers awaiting death, and the locals are sat outside, hollering, cheering, and eating sandwiches, I always wonder who's the more simian and beastly; the one time, deluded murderer, or the -supposed- 'ordinary' folk, clapping and cheering?