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Barcode,
The state?s fear of cannabis is that one of its effects is to cause people to discuss their common predicament and unlike alcohol which depresses the central nervous system it expands consciousness and this is why Jamaica is one of the most anarchic societies in the world. The state refers to the Jamaican model as the ?campfire syndrome? and this is why authoritarian governments are afraid of the widespread use of this non addictive plant.
Mike Freeman.

Here was I having a go at Dibble for jumping to conclusions and now you're just the same!

Everything you're saying is all presumptuous, Barcode. Are you saying one cannot be anti-drugs without being a closet racist? I have no affection for the Daily Mail.....it seems too reactionary and, like most other tabloids, sensationalist with a right-wing twist, but hey....journalists don't always write for papers based on political leanings and every journalist writing for the Daily Mail are their own person, with differing views, I'm sure....as are the readers. Lots of journalists just want to earn a living and if that means writing for the daily Mail, so be it. I don't think the DM has some sort of initiation ceremony where new journos have to chase a black man with a pack of dogs and a rifle.

What I would say about your remark regarding readers just buying the mail to back-up/reinforce their own prejudiced views.....well I see that as a positive! These readers can't be very good racists if they continually have to have their racism 'reinforced', eh? There's hope yet!

And finishing off by having a pop at people's IQs........dear oh dear....

Associating cannabis with black 'yardies' and associating the daily Mail with only a white, racist readership are both equally inaccurate. The most deeply racist people I know, who have the biggest hatred of immigration, are infact 3rd generation immigrants themselves. Ask any Arab/Yemeni what they think about black people and you'll rarely get an enlightened response. It's too common an occurrence in the community I live for east European immigrants having to be moved out for their own safety, due to Pakistani/Arab/Bengali gangs putting their windows through, or setting fire to their houses.

Fascism these days is taught in the Mosques, not the Daily Mail. (though the DM is still a shite paper)

seems a pretty pointless thing to write in a book as cannabis supply will never dry up so the theory will never be tested!

[quote]Yes I was presuming that people make presumptions about other people and use it in a rather cynical way to increase newspaper circulation,[/quote]

True of all people, and all papers. My regular paper used to be The Guardian & Observer. Politically and morally I was pretty much in agreement with most articles I read, but I'd be lying to myself if I never saw a bias view.

[quote]I'm not actually saying I'm right about the Mail/drugs/race idea,[/quote]

Well, you didn't, but you expressed your theory so any debate to be had must be based on this. Do you consider it 'likely'?

[quote]For people to start swearing, calling me an idiot twice and throwing a total tantrum means that they can't debate which probably has something to do with their maturity and intelligence.[/quote]

I don't agree. The more intelligent you are the more autistic you're likely to be - which is related to social skills. I imagine there are plenty of 150+ IQ'ers who find it hard to debate with others (esp less intelligent people as they must surely get frustrated with people who don't 'get it'.) It's a very general rule, but an accepted one. This is all by-the by, though and digressing from the point that if you consider yourself a decent debater, you should easily be able to win an argument without undermining your opponents intelligence.

[quote]The Mail has only to throw a switch and mention 'cannabis' to draw upon a whole collection of associated ideas about race, culture and hatred.[/quote]

A bold statement, or just an idea again? I suppose it is true of some readers, but determining how big that 'some' is is surely the most important factor, otherwise I could claim that the statement: 'The BBC only have to show buffalos having sex for some idiot to get wild ideas about cow-rape.' was also a viable 'truth'. With 6 billion people in the world, my statement has to be true somewhere! !laugh!

[quote]My last question is to ask where did you get the idea that fascism is taught in Mosques?[/quote]

I read it in the Daily Mail.... Only kidding!!!!

Lets look at what fascism is shall we?

from wiki source (sorry):[quote] Fascism is a term used to describe authoritarian nationalist political ideologies or mass movements that are concerned with notions of cultural decline or decadence and seek to achieve a millenarian national rebirth by placing the interests of the individual as subordinate to that of the nation or race and promoting cults of unity, energy and purity.[/quote]

Where does the Islamic faith NOT agree with the above?

1. Ideology - Yes
2. Authoritarian - Yes
3. Nationalist - Not really, but they do refer to themselves as 'One nation' at times.
4. Political - Increasingly so.
5. concerned with notions of cultural decline - it's their biggest fear.
6. placing the interests of the individual as subordinate to that of the nation or race - Replacing 'the nation' with 'Islam' and we're building a perfect fit here.

I'm not saying other religions don't fall under the above categories. But Christianity has been battered by liberalism and logic for the last 400 years. The Anglican church accept gay vicars these days....does Islam?

[quote]Have you been taught, rightly or wrongly, perhaps without realising it to associate the Islamic religion with fascism?[/quote]

No. I just realised that the more I learnt about fascism, the more Islam seemed to fit.