Barry George
Re: Barry George
You are Barry George or is it Lobby Ludd and i collect my 10,000 quid
Re: Barry George
It was such a convincing fake .. if you would be convinced by a photo that had the 'EMI' logo on it.
Pictures are routinely faked in newspapers and magazines on a daily, weekly and monthly basis yet people accept this as a 'normal' practice and it's for exactly the same purpose - to make someone or something seem other than they are.
Pictures are routinely faked in newspapers and magazines on a daily, weekly and monthly basis yet people accept this as a 'normal' practice and it's for exactly the same purpose - to make someone or something seem other than they are.
Re: Barry George
I think it's more likely that, like everyone, he wanted a little bit of love and popularity and Freddie Mercury was simply a means to that end ie if I claim to be related to someone successful people will like and respect me a little more. We can all think of people who have pulled the exact same stunt or variants of it.
Re: Barry George
George also tried to fake an alibi for the time of the Dando killing.
If he was smart enough to know that an alibi was going to be useful, he's hardly the total incompetent that some people here make out.
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Re: Barry George
Yeah right another lie the cops found out.
Re: Barry George
Yes, but I expect he shat himself afterwards!
Have you seen pictures of his flat? It was a disgusting mess, full of junk, newspapers and magazines, and little piles of shit where he hadn't bothered to go to the loo. The guy is a mess, in the lowest 1% of the population for intelligence and organisation. He was pinched because he was the local nutter, then the case was made because forensics claimed, wrongly, that what they called a piece of firearms residue was linked to the crime. That evidence has now been withdrawn. Barry George had the fascination for guns and the army that a child might have, because that's the level of his intellect. No-one is saying he is not weird, to the contrary, he is such a disorganised, low IQ, messed up guy that the idea he could calmy execute Jill Dando and leave no trace, and then keep his mouth shut ever since, is just completely implausible.
Re: Barry George
"George also tried to fake an alibi for the time of the Dando killing.
If he was smart enough to know that an alibi was going to be useful, he's hardly the total incompetent that some people here make out."
He tried to establish an alibi, it doesn't mean he tried to fake one. The care worker he spoke to supports his claim as to where he was. Apparently he'd been hauled in as part of the Rachel Nickell murder inquiry (because he's a local weirdo of course), so he wanted to make sure he could establish his whereabouts. I can't see how that makes him guilty.
If he was smart enough to know that an alibi was going to be useful, he's hardly the total incompetent that some people here make out."
He tried to establish an alibi, it doesn't mean he tried to fake one. The care worker he spoke to supports his claim as to where he was. Apparently he'd been hauled in as part of the Rachel Nickell murder inquiry (because he's a local weirdo of course), so he wanted to make sure he could establish his whereabouts. I can't see how that makes him guilty.
Re: Barry George
JamesW wrote:
> "As far as I can see Jill Dando was killed by a professional"
>
> Intersting opinion Robches.
>
> However, professionals don't usually gun people down in a very
> public location in the middle of the day. Too much chance of
> witnesses, don't you think?
>
> In fact not only was it a public location, but being an
> ordinary street there was nowhere to hide.
Well, it was a very quiet street, the gun shot was not heard, and Jill Dando was there for some time before she was discovered. It seems to me the crime went off pretty well.
> Also a car which could have provided some cover wasn't used and
> the murderer had to hang around on foot.
>
> No getaway car? How professional was that? It's hard to imagine
> a professional making a hit and then having to flee on foot.
How do you know there was no getaway car? No-one saw the killing, no-one saw the killer leave the scene.
> The muzzle also made contact with the victim - contrary to a
> professional killer?s work, as it leaves unwanted forensic
> evidence.
Well if it t did leave any forensic evidence , certainly none ties in to Barry George. From what I can gather, the killer stuck the gun up to her head to deaden the sound, which seems like a nifty piece of work for an amateur.
> In addition, the firearm used appeared to be a modified weapon
> - designed to fire blanks, but modified to fire live rounds.
> Not exactly the kind of weapon used by professionals.
I don't know too many hitmen, but the gun was deadly, and no doubt destroyed soon after the crime. Why use anything better when this gun did the job?
> And the bullets were homemade - how many professionals have
> difficulty finding real ammunition?
I understand that ammunition is often made up from components in this way, it's not "home made" in the sense that the parts are made from scratch, just that the bullet, powder, case and primer are put together at home rather than by a factory.
> On the other hand, perhaps Robches has an explanation for all
> of this?
Not really, it seems to me like a pretty professional hit, but then again I could be wrong. Until the killer is caught we won't know, but I can't see any real evidence against Barry George, and I don't think he's the killer.
> "As far as I can see Jill Dando was killed by a professional"
>
> Intersting opinion Robches.
>
> However, professionals don't usually gun people down in a very
> public location in the middle of the day. Too much chance of
> witnesses, don't you think?
>
> In fact not only was it a public location, but being an
> ordinary street there was nowhere to hide.
Well, it was a very quiet street, the gun shot was not heard, and Jill Dando was there for some time before she was discovered. It seems to me the crime went off pretty well.
> Also a car which could have provided some cover wasn't used and
> the murderer had to hang around on foot.
>
> No getaway car? How professional was that? It's hard to imagine
> a professional making a hit and then having to flee on foot.
How do you know there was no getaway car? No-one saw the killing, no-one saw the killer leave the scene.
> The muzzle also made contact with the victim - contrary to a
> professional killer?s work, as it leaves unwanted forensic
> evidence.
Well if it t did leave any forensic evidence , certainly none ties in to Barry George. From what I can gather, the killer stuck the gun up to her head to deaden the sound, which seems like a nifty piece of work for an amateur.
> In addition, the firearm used appeared to be a modified weapon
> - designed to fire blanks, but modified to fire live rounds.
> Not exactly the kind of weapon used by professionals.
I don't know too many hitmen, but the gun was deadly, and no doubt destroyed soon after the crime. Why use anything better when this gun did the job?
> And the bullets were homemade - how many professionals have
> difficulty finding real ammunition?
I understand that ammunition is often made up from components in this way, it's not "home made" in the sense that the parts are made from scratch, just that the bullet, powder, case and primer are put together at home rather than by a factory.
> On the other hand, perhaps Robches has an explanation for all
> of this?
Not really, it seems to me like a pretty professional hit, but then again I could be wrong. Until the killer is caught we won't know, but I can't see any real evidence against Barry George, and I don't think he's the killer.
Re: Barry George
He was married though wasnt he?by the way i never saw any shit in the pics plenty of bags though and papers and a wall dorned with pics!Robches wrote:
> to the toilet".
>
> However, according to the Guardian:
>
> "George persuaded a stadium in Derby to stage a stunt in which
> he jumped over a row of double decker buses on his
> rollerskates. The stadium sold hundreds of tickets for the
> event. At the last moment, having seen the platform and ramp
> which had been constructed, George tried to back down but
> eventually plucked up courage and managed to complete the
> leap.">
>
> Yes, but I expect he shat himself afterwards!
>
> Have you seen pictures of his flat? It was a disgusting mess,
> full of junk, newspapers and magazines, and little piles of
> shit where he hadn't bothered to go to the loo. The guy is a
> mess, in the lowest 1% of the population for intelligence and
> organisation. He was pinched because he was the local nutter,
> then the case was made because forensics claimed, wrongly, that
> what they called a piece of firearms residue was linked to the
> crime. That evidence has now been withdrawn. Barry George had
> the fascination for guns and the army that a child might have,
> because that's the level of his intellect. No-one is saying he
> is not weird, to the contrary, he is such a disorganised, low
> IQ, messed up guy that the idea he could calmy execute Jill
> Dando and leave no trace, and then keep his mouth shut ever
> since, is just completely implausible.
>
>
> to the toilet".
>
> However, according to the Guardian:
>
> "George persuaded a stadium in Derby to stage a stunt in which
> he jumped over a row of double decker buses on his
> rollerskates. The stadium sold hundreds of tickets for the
> event. At the last moment, having seen the platform and ramp
> which had been constructed, George tried to back down but
> eventually plucked up courage and managed to complete the
> leap.">
>
> Yes, but I expect he shat himself afterwards!
>
> Have you seen pictures of his flat? It was a disgusting mess,
> full of junk, newspapers and magazines, and little piles of
> shit where he hadn't bothered to go to the loo. The guy is a
> mess, in the lowest 1% of the population for intelligence and
> organisation. He was pinched because he was the local nutter,
> then the case was made because forensics claimed, wrongly, that
> what they called a piece of firearms residue was linked to the
> crime. That evidence has now been withdrawn. Barry George had
> the fascination for guns and the army that a child might have,
> because that's the level of his intellect. No-one is saying he
> is not weird, to the contrary, he is such a disorganised, low
> IQ, messed up guy that the idea he could calmy execute Jill
> Dando and leave no trace, and then keep his mouth shut ever
> since, is just completely implausible.
>
>