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Hi David,

It was not my intention to make fun out this chaps bi polar disorder.

China is not exactly known for its tolerance and asican countries in general have such a strict view on drug smuggling that I meant they woud not see this mans mental health problem as enough of a reason to grant clemency.

Personally and call me jaded if you like, a man who is trying to preach world peace and write a song could also be claculatedly doing so in the event he was caught.

is he innocent? No he isnt but it seems everyone has some kind of mental break down at the thought of the death penalty.

Who is to say he didnt plan the whole thing out?

I'll keep an open mind to your views though.

While I personally dont beleive in the death penalty and I think it is way to harsh in this case I do beleive a spell inside is punishment enough and usually enough to make the offender think twice about doing it in future.

To put a man to death is so absolute and if it was designed to put possible offenders off then it hasnt worked

David Johnson wrote:

However, there seems to be sufficient background here to justify his death sentence being commuted. Especially, if it goes ahead, he would be the first EU citizen executed in China for 50 years.


I'm not championing this mans execution. Merely saying he has picked himself the least favourable country to smuggle drugs.

Im sceptical whether ill health had anything to do with it and if so why was he allowed to travel? Why didnt his family keep him under supervision? It just looks like an excuse to get him off the hook.

It remains to be seen what the outcome is and I wouldnt be putting any money on it being favourable where the chinese authorities are concerned.

I bet they are already thinking about us piss taking westerners come to their country and flout the laws and expect to just get off lightly for acrime that carries the death penalty

Hi
I can understand your points. Apparently, the Chinese refused a mental assessment even though Chinese law allows for mental illness to be used as a defence. The initial hearing leading to the conviction lasted 30 minutes.
You said
"Personally and call me jaded if you like, a man who is trying to preach world peace and write a song could also be claculatedly doing so in the event he was caught.
is he innocent? No he isnt but it seems everyone has some kind of mental break down at the thought of the death penalty.
Who is to say he didnt plan the whole thing out?"

All I would say is that since the case has begun to have a great deal of publicity, a number of people who knew him have come forward independently to state that during the time he was homeless in Poland he showed definite signs of mental illness.
The idea that this man put on an act of mental illness for several years as a potential defence, prior to being caught smuggling drugs years later, seems a little unlikely to say the least.

You also said
"Why didnt his family keep him under supervision? It just looks like an excuse to get him off the hook"

Why didnt the families of all the homeless people and sundry nutters wandering around London keep their sons under supervision? Its not as easy as that is it? There have been many cases of mentally ill people in the UK who have fallen between the cracks and ended up committing appalling murders without any real understanding of what they are doing.

Like yourself, I'm against the death penalty. This guy seems to have been a person with a history of mental health problems, who was delusional and very vulnerable to being taken advantage of. Yes, he committed a crime, but I dont believe he deserved to be executed. It is unfortunate that his sentence wasn't commuted to imprisonment. At least this would have allowed his supporters to take advantage of all the publicity in order to put together a cogent case for the fact that he was genuinely mentally ill.

Cheers
David

Hiya
With regard to your comments about it maybe all being an act, have a gander at this link
http://www.reprieve.org.uk/akmalshaikh

Scroll down to the bottom where there are various links to statements made by people who knew him in Poland .

Have a read of the statements. Do you still think it was an act he put on in case he was later caught?

CHeers
David

If the twatt took his medication, that is if he was prescribed medication in the first place, he would have been perfectly normal and would be able to think and reason logically. Therefore, he would have been nothing but a filthy drug smuggler.
Stephen Fry is a self confessed bi polar sufferer, but he seems to be one of the most resonable thinkers out of all the so called celebs on the television.
Having met many Chinese during my service I have a certain amount of respect for them. If their judical system allows for the death penalty for certain crimes then it is not the job of outside wankers, such as Broon and Cameron, to deplore them.
I wonder how the Chinese would react if the bastard Islamic fundafuckingmentalists decided to have a pop at them.
I can tell you now, ALL Islamics, Arabs and Pakis would be systematically and intimately searched before they got into an airport let alone onto a plane. If one was found with material to cause the loss of an aircraft then they would be tried and shot the next fucking day.

What a compassionate lot you all are, a mentally ill man who was duped into something way over his head is executed and you all say good riddance. This is a human life wiped out,what for? Because he got into a situation he couldn't understand and was taken advantage of? Ffs show some heart.

Hi,
I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are serious rather than playing the part of a caricature.
You said
"If the twatt took his medication, that is if he was prescribed medication in the first place, he would have been perfectly normal and would be able to think and reason logically. Therefore, he would have been nothing but a filthy drug smuggler".

As you rightly point out, you havent got a clue whether he had been prescribed medication or not. Given the fact that he was apparently homeless in Poland for the years before his arrest, we can guess that maybe he wasn't. With regard to being a filthy drug smuggler, there are vulnerable people who are duped into smuggling drugs. The possibility of this happening would seem to be increased when someone has a history of mental illness.

"Stephen Fry is a self confessed bi polar sufferer, but he seems to be one of the most resonable thinkers out of all the so called celebs on the television".

This is a really ignorant argument. Like many illnesses, the symptoms of bi-polar vary. In some people it can just result in a period of depression followed by enormous elation. In others, it can result in hallucinations and psychotic periods. Your argument is a bit like saying someone who has bowel cancer caught in the very early stages, treated and lives a long life is in exactly the same situation as someone who is caught at a late stage and given weeks or months to live i.e. they may have the same illness but it can have a completely different impact and severity.

Cheers
David

Seeing as you know so much about it I presume you are bi ploar.

So what.
China has the right to conduct its affairs whether the pair of twatts Broon and Cameron disagree.
They have a penal code with penalties for various offences. This offence carries the death penalty. He offended, he paid. Fucking live with it.

As for a British man being executed, well, I am English. My good friend is Scottish and another good friend is an Ulsterman. Collectively we are British.
The fucking drug smuggler aint.