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"I'm aware that racism means any race treating any other race in a negative way, but in practice is only ever really refers to white people doing it to others".

I suspect this may be true in Max land. However fortunately, many people have a wider perspective of life.

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Do they? What about those Sheila's Wheels car insurance adverts on TV. They stress that the policy's are for women only and that men should not and could not apply for them. Nothing happens with that. Just like with Tony Blair's 'womens only short-list' back in the 1990's and 2000's. Imagine the hoo-ha that would occur if there was an insurance company just for men, and women could not apply for cover; or a 'men's only short list' somewhere. These people would be in trouble under sex equality laws, just like the MCC at Lords Cricket Ground were in trouble over their men only membership policy.

So, according to you, the right to not be deemed a migrant is purely based on how much you know about your great great great great great grandparents?

That's all well and good but surely this varies family to family. I know nothing of my 5th (and beyond) generation descendants. Some people from broken homes and the like don't even know who their grandparents are. Are they then migrants if they move back to Ireland from the US?

Surely it's easier to say someone descends from where they were born, and that their nationality is whatever country they're currently a citizen of.

I suppose it is down to how you regard yourself. Australians with an English background regard themselves simply as Australian, yet Australians with an Italian background would call themselves Italian, those who have a Greek background call themselves Greek, and so on. Descendants of the English who settled in America call themselves American, descendants of the Irish, the Italians, call themselves Irish American, Italian American, etc. I don't know why it differs from one people's to another but it does. I would like to see everyone who is born somewhere regard themselves as being from that place, full stop. I am not in favour of people born in the UK who cheer for the country their grand-parents came from in sport. If they demand to be seen as a Brit, they should act like a Brit. Loyalty and patronage to the place you are born, and having no mental association with the place your forebares left, was what the archictects of multi-culturalism wanted in the first place. It never turned out like they had hoped in many cases, but then they had no idea what they were doing anyway.

First you say
"I'm aware that racism means any race treating any other race in a negative way, but in practice is only ever really refers to white people doing it to others".

I reply and then you start waffling on about...

"Do they? What about those Sheila's Wheels car insurance adverts on TV. They stress that the policy's are for women only and that men should not and could not apply for them"

WTF! I give up!

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Sorry if this has been mentioned elsewhere in the thread.

Story by AFP

Sikh will be first non-white in far-right BNP

An Indian-born Sikh pensioner is hoping to become the first non-white member of the far-right British National Party (BNP) because he wants to fight Islamic extremism, he said on Monday.

Rajinder Singh, 78, is joining the BNP -- whose policies include stopping immigration -- after the party voted Sunday to change its constitution to admit ethnic minorities for the first time, following a court ruling.

Singh, a retired teacher, was born in West Punjab and left India in 1967.

He said he had seen the "potential of Islam", witnessing extensive violence after partition in 1947, and wanted to "save" Britain by working to prevent similar scenes here.

"Islam is global, it has zero loyalty to Britain," he said.

"The BNP are sons of soil and they are standing up for their soil. I wish we had a counterpart of the BNP in India in 1946."

He said he had adopted the "British way of life" but denied he had renounced Sikh values.

"Some Sikhs say 'You are not a Sikh', but I have core Sikh values," he added.

"Britain is changing, it's not the Britain I came to when I came in. The British people are worried, and the BNP is the expression of their worry".

Singh also praised BNP leader Nick Griffin for "taking on the whole storm of lefties" who wanted to encourage multiculturalism.

The BNP says it expects Singh to become an official member Tuesday, while Griffin has said he expects a "trickle, rather than a flood" of applications from ethnic minorities.

The party has no MPs in the House of Commons but two of its representatives sit in the European Parliament and it has dozens of local councillors around England.

If the BNP were to renounce Fascism and be a genuine party for British Nationalism and stand up for Britain against those who wish nothing but the worst for Britain then I see nothing wrong with it.
However, the problem seems that the majority of the membership are the Neanderthall morons who are always at hand when the odious arsehole Nick fucking whats his name is out in public.
The other thing about their party name is that the Nazis called themselves National Socialists.
The BNP at present is a British Nazi Party and I believe they should be proscribed.
Those who believe that Islam is the enemy to GB and other Nations are correct. Whenever there is an outrageous statement by the preachers of hate the so called moderate Muslims in UK plead that these preachers do not speak for them. Maybe they don't, but the moderates don't ever seem to do anything about them, which I believe they could, and should.

I agree. If they BNP had never had a Holocaust Denying and repatriation agenda, which they had as recently as the 1900s and probably still do, then I would see nothing wrong in voting for them. I think the attacks on the BNP are quite absurd from many people in society.

You refer to the fact they have National in their name, just like the Nazi's did. What do you make of the Scottish National Party then? National features in their name aswell.

When you say that most BNP members are morons I imagine most are just ordinary people who are afraid for their and their kids' futures. The anti-BNP outfit, which is called Nothing British About The BNP, said on the TV that 'at least 75% of BNP voters are not extremists, just ordinary very worried people'.

*typo, first line. I meant 'as recently as the 1990s'.