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I didn't say that at all, if you read my post properly without SNAP JUDGEMENTS, you might get an idea of what I actually meant.

mart wrote:

> So its OK to leave the UK and live in someone else's country
> but not the other way round.
> Please explain.
>
> Mart


What I actually posted was this:

Snake Diamond wrote:

> It doesn't matter if 12,000 people leave, (I believe it is next
> month) when 2 more States join the European Common Union, they
> have already got thousands of appicants already trying to
> request access to the UK, ready for when their country's
> membership is official, so they will sponge off of our health
> service, work opportunity's & limited available property's. Oh
> & last week, there was an announcement regarding the 2012
> Olympics, the Contractor who won the deal to build the new
> stadium for 2012 has already decided to employ 2,000 Spanish
> people to build the stadium, he will bring them over specially
> to do the work, as he sees they are more cost efficient to
> employ. So if this is true & it goes ahead, we can see EVEN
> MORE Jobs, Homes, & NHS Funding being taken away from the
> british people.

What I was referring to is the point that this company is NOT offering the work to ANYONE in the UK, he is directly handing over the work to the Spanish people, & bringing them over. That is approx 2,000 more people taking work away from the people of the UK (no matter what race/creed/colour/religion), & approx 2,000 more people needing housing/etc (even if it is only temporary).

Now I DID NOT say that it was not ok for people to come here, but it is ok for us to go there.

As a matter of fact, I DO NOT agree with the British Government holding an Open Arms policy to every country in the world, we are a small Island, & have limited work/housing, compared to USA, Australia or The EU Continent.

If a few people want to emigrate to this country, fare enough, if a few people want to emigrate to another country from here, ok, but my "problem" is when we have thousands of applicants all in one go.

I used to work at Heathrow Airport, & every time I went past the Security Holding Centre, there was always a minimum of 200 people in there at any one time, all looking for immigration or asylum in the UK.

The goverment try making out the figures of those wanting to come into the UK is low, yes the Applicants are still flooding into the UK, & these holding centres are still full up. THAT IS MY ISSUE.

Mysteryman wrote:

> There are a lot of xenophobes out there. How many of you want
> the rotten, low paid jobs these people fill and will continue
> to fill?

I agree that alot of people nowadays are too scared/snobby/self concerned to even think of woirking in low paid sectors.

> Your parents and grandparents didn't want them in the 1950s and
> 1960s and they were filled by Caribbean immigrants. In the
> 1970s and 1980s Spaniards and Portuguese came in and now its
> the Poles, next the Romanians and Bulgarians.

> If you are all that concerned about the influx, press your MP
> to campaign to leave the EU and ban the import of foreign
> labour. Then make sure that at least one of your kids gets a
> job as a street sweeper/hospital porter/junior nurse or waiter
> - or another job which the average Brit won't touch or apply
> yourself.

Besides Skilled Jobs, I have also worked in Hospitals in Wharehouse Delivery, Road Sweeping, Cleaning Operative in Business's/Public Toilets, Wharehouse & Kitchen Assistants (a general dogs body/gopher/lacky). Granted these jobs are lowly paid & quite often can be disheartening to ones self-esteem, but if your unemplyed, need work & money, then you take what you can get.

> The EU is about INTEGRATION and is the best hope for peace in
> Europe and (with a bigger population than/potentially more
> output than the USA) for a counterbalance to the USA and the
> new power of China and India.

> Just a thought- if Britain still had an Empire, with the
> current ease of travel, no doubt you would all be protesting
> about the number of Indians, Nigerians, Kenyans etc., coming in

I don't care where they come from, the influx of people is TOO GREAT, in another thread I recently posted in, we are a SMALL ISLAND with limited Job Opportunity's/Housing, the sheer amount of people trying to come into this country is TOO GREAT. A few people here or there is ok, but thousands, too much.

You like the American Idea of Chain Gangs?

To a certain degree, I think they can be useful.

Most definitely! Don't want to be treated as a slave? Don't do the crime! Just imagine all all the "unwanted" jobs the trash could fill. I'd say that they could do it all without the need for economic migrants. The only expense to the economy would be the basics of keeping them alive! Trouble is, in this country there's too many bleeding hearts who'd bleat that we're treating them unfairly.

Absolutely.

A few people here or there is ok, but thousands, too much.

Try hundreds of thousands! As you said, in a country as large as the US they could easily swallow that many (but won't), but in a country the size of the UK?

It's amazing that the opportunist government of ours hasn't thought yet about using this single massive cash cow who're just sitting around idle in jail!

LOL, I was being moderate with the figures !laugh!

In the first 2 weeks of me working at Heathrow, there was over 3,000 people coming through the Immigration Office.

Yes, every time I went past, there was lots of people in the Holding Centre, constantly.

Back in the 80's the Government tried making out we were only recieving a small amount of people per year for Asylum or Immigration, yet a couple of years ago, they published a report stating that during the late 80's Immigration/Asylum seekers entering the country was approx 100,000 people. We all know the Government "fix figures", & from a guy who I know in Heathrow Airport who deals with Security, his "estimate" is more like 180,000.

The Government tried making out recently that the figures for Immigration/Asylum seekers have declined over the last 10 years.

HOW ???

During the 80's Britian was supposed to have about 85M people, the 90's 98M people, now 110M people, but again they have fixed the figures.

These figures were unofficially released by a member of the one of the offices of the government last year. The crazy thing, reading one of the statistics from the Governments own site, they reckon britain has just scratched past 60M people.

This again is pure bullshit by the government.

What about the Rate of Unemployment, again its about 3M unemployed, what a fucking Joke.

Income Support - NOT included in the Official Figures.
Job Seekers Allowance - NOT included in the Official Figures.
Disablement Benefits - NOT included in the Official Figures.
In receipt of Job Seekers Allowance, but on a Training Course - NOT included in the Official Figures.
Unemployment Benefit (paid full rate for the first 12 Weeks) - INCLUDED in the Official Figures.

Well, the Jailed Prisoners USED to sew-up the Grey Mail Bags for use in Sorting/Post Offices. Don't know if they still do, but they used to, they would get paid a small amount for every 10 bags they made/fixed/repaired.