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Re: Stalin or Hitler
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:20 pm
by Pervert
It's just that we always look at Germany as if the Nazis had won an overwhelming mandate. As you say, PR doesn't require a majority, and certainly the majority of Germans eligible to vote did not mark their cross in the Nazi box.
A few years down the line, once the Jews had been disenfranchised, the communists and trade unionists stamped on, and churches made reluctant allies of the regime, the Nazis would have won majority support. But not in 1933.
Re: Stalin or Hitler
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:47 pm
by Sam Slater
[quote]Under the system they had at the time, the German people elected Hitler. That is inescapable.[/quote]
You're not allowed to say that in polite circles Wazza. In fact, you'd be in prison for mentioning such a thing in Austria (Germany too if they had their way).
David Irving anyone?
Re: Stalin or Hitler
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:12 pm
by Sam Slater
Have a good day out.............but as for keeping an eye on things; I don't think so.
Who do you think I am, some sort of dictator?!
Re: Stalin or Hitler
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:26 am
by jj
warren zevon rip wrote:
> Ah, but a sensible man (cf Marshall Petain) may have
> surrendered to Hitler and given him the Ukraine to keep the
> peace. Whither Britain then? Another million or so casualties,
> do you reckon? Would the USA even have bothered fighting
> Germany if Russia had already surrendered by Dec 1941?
It's a nice game, 'what if'.....
Re. France, Anthony Burgess remarked that it was French rationalism
that counselled surrender, faced with overwhelming odds; whereas
British stupidity in exactly the same situation made us fight on :- )
> "one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic" quip.
Gallows humour. I usually prefer my g.h. from the victim rather than the
executioner.