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[quote]The silly thing is you saying any homosexual act does not mean there is no homosexuality or bisexuality involved.[/quote]

Now where did I say that? I said a homosexual act can be committed by straight men. Again, and again, and again: You have to be sexually attracted to the same sex to be either gay or bisexual. FACT.

[quote]Obviously the doctors would not want to do this either, but there is no sexual context involved[/quote]

Doesn't matter really. The point is that both Steve and the doctor are committing a very personal act, with a member of the same sex, that they do not enjoy.

[quote]I expect many farmers are animal lovers, we all know about welshmen and their sheep( no offence Isabel) and these arabs and their camels.[/quote]

Well done, alice! You actually managed to get some national stereotyping, along with hints of racism into a debate that hitherto no-one's even come close to mentioning. How does your brain work? Do I just have to throw you random words and then your brain associates it with some fascistic phrase you have stored away? Did it make you feel better?

[quote]How would it save anybody from being raped, tortured and killed as they are going to do that anyway, whether you let yourslef be bummed or not?[/quote]

Lol.... When a hypothetical question come up, you're supposed to take it at face value, not start trying to wheedle your way out of it by making excuses!

[quote]But the answer is no I would go down fighting rather than letting myself be degraded in such a manner,[/quote]

So you'd rather risk your kids be gangraped and tortured just to save your precious, heterosexual pride? Please tell me you've no kids.

[quote]and what sort of dad would be able to look his kid in the eye after being bummed in front of him,[/quote]

Well, what sort of dad would be so blas? about their kiddies chastity and life? And anyway, I never mentioned your kids having to watch daddy be bummed. Jesus Christ! Stop twisting my twisted hypotheticals! You're not some sick exhibitionist are you? Olay will be having a birthday working you out, Alice....



It's weird when we debate, Alice. My emotions are all asunder. Do I laugh or cry? Am I to be humoured or scared? Bloody hell......

This is getting abit long and drawn out isnt it lads. C'mon who cares if Steve is batting for the opposition? Its not like you have to kiss him after a scene like that is it?

Its one thing to debate a mans sexual orientation and its another thing to get drawn into a heated debate defending your corner over a guy who knolws neither of you or what is going on here.

Now kiss and make up you two....

Wooooooooo!

How do you know that I'm not acquainted with Steve?

Assumptions, assumptions....

Anyway, it's not really about Steve, and me & alice are mates.....!wink! He wants my babies, I'm sure of it, the teasing little bitch.

Alice has low ears, you wouldn,t like him, and Terry's right, your droning on like a grimsby fishwife, go and have a glass of sherry.

I went off sherry when I was about 12. Seriously, I once heard mi nan say a glass of sherry warmed her up in the winter so a decided to have a glass of my dad's before school when it was cold. I got a right good hiding when it came to Christmas and the bottle was empty. He thought my mum was a closet alcoholic until I fessed up.

You've not lived until you're going 40mph, on a scateboard, hanging off the back of a bus with a few sherries down yer neck. Life is so dull these days.....

[quote]What came first, the chicken or the egg....?[/quote]

Come on Isabel; you can do better than that!

Obviously the egg came first. Birds evolved from reptiles, who evolved from amphibians, who evolved from fish. 99% of the latter three all lay eggs so the egg came millions of years before the chicken.

If you believe in Genesis then fuck knows. God kinda kept it a secret.

Sam... I'm imagining you with a very long white beard, that you stroke at regular intervals...

!bow!