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thats politics kally.. tho labour have taken it to a new level of deciept for which you have to blame blair/cambell/mandelson..... thats where it started .

She closed down communities literally,so her friends in the city could get reach, Loaddsssamoneeeeeee for the spivs,the honest worker shafted .

Some people have mentioned how Labour has had a long time to turn this around. They certainly have and could have done had they not opened the doors to Eastern Europe. There are probably more jobs now than in the 1980's but in the specific geographical regions that Maggie decimated, like the north-east, south Wales, lots of the midlands and parts of Yorkshire, many of these places are still depressed. The band 'The Manic Streets Preachers' are from a place called Blackwood in south Wales. The guy in the band, Richie Edwards, who disappeared back in 1995 and has never been heard from since, was depressed most of his life and eventually (possibly anyway) killed himself. He said once that "Blackwood was full of nothing but rubble and shit". It was said that Blackwood never recovered from the miners strike of 1984 and unemployment and a general bleakness has hung over it, and countless other communities, ever since. If Thatcher was keen to defeat Arthur Scargill (the miners union leader in 1984) then that was all well and good, but the effects of what the outcome would be should have been handled better and more caringly than she did do. Jobs could have been replaced in these places with the ending of the mining industry there. Admittedly the Rhonda Valley in Wales did become 'the Honda Valley', as it was nicknamed, with the arrival of some new jobs in the car industry, but so many jobs were not replaced in these places. With the increase in the number of jobs that have come about in recent years, although few in the georgraphical areas I am talking about, there is confirmation there of Labour's genuine attempt's at creating more employment in the UK. I do not for the life of me understand why then they allowed one or two million eastern Europeans to move here, along with general immigration which is running at record levels, and having most of those jobs going to them. Before anyone says I'm wrong, there HAS been that number arrive and they are ALL in work (as they cant get dole and few brought any savings) so that IS a case of British jobs going to foreigners.

And I do not for the life of me understand why people can still be arguing that 'she was good for the country, she put the Great back into Britain' and the rest of the cliched bullshit they spout. She argued that the mines had to close because they were 'uneconomical'. We supposedly could by a ton of coal from Poland cheaper than we could mine it here. Her (and her 'economic' advisors, had 'costed' everything (as was their wont in the eighties) but the stupid bastards had not costed the price of NOT mining that ton of coal - which we are still paying now, and will be for the forseeable future. She was, far from being the economic saviour of the nation, economically illiterate and naive. I live in the North-East and I have borne witness to the Thatcherite madness on a daily basis, and I honestly can't see the region recovering at all from her policies. Also, the fact that we are still arguing about her now, shows how much she divided the nation.

I agree, she was a fucking train crash, but revered by swiss tony types everywhere.

I agree, he is a fucking train crash, but revered by "metrosexual "(copyright Dibble) types everywhere....lol

Wasn't Heath a Tory? Do we need to revisit the mass-sackings that
resulted under the 100 years'-worth of previous Tory admins.?

Your last para I fully agree with, however.

When Margaret Thatchers Govt sold their (and our) country to the Americans the damage was irreparable.
One indicator is the demise of the local pub. Sites that had been the hub of local communities since the middle ages are now housing developments shops or derelict because the system of brewery ownership was dismantled to allow foreign takeovers by Thatcher. The traditions of centuries cant be rebuilt. With time new traditions may appear but not while America is our closest ally.
Tony Blair continued her tradition and committed us to a war in Iraq based on lies so patent he could not have believed them Brown like Major is a caretaker keeping the chair warm until the next "leader " appears so there is no immediate signs that Britain will re-assert it's identity.