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Re: Escort/model risk ?

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:46 am
by kaicee marie
lindsey, dont take this the wrong way but i think this has all been blown out of proportion, i replied to your thread explaining how adultwork can be misleading, i got a cross in escort box so this tells people i dont escort, but i have bareback on my likes list referring to porn, and so do other girls. i spoke to other models who also agree, that was to try and put your mind at rest but it now seems that you are insinuating that i am one of these so say people that do this bareback escort stuff as you said its all excuses, i know its hard to trust people reassurance, but please dont try and accuse any1 of this kind of think unless you have proof, and may i ask what proof you have of any of these models as this has just come from adultwork right?


kaicee


Re: Escort/model risk ?

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:44 pm
by videokim
If a model or escort are silly enough to go bareback with a nightclub fling or punter it can still end in trouble. A model who works with her/he fellow pro stars knows casual sex without condoms could fetch the industry down & the same goes for escorts stupid enough to go bareback with their punters.
It only takes one encounter without protection to catch HIV so people not being responsible escorts or models should be put on a high risk list if they want to play silly games with other peoples lives.

Comments like lindsey's below show the minds of some of the wet behind the ears models & escorts & its pretty scarey to think you could work with someone who actually believes this, you started this thread & then say this...pot kettle springs to mind.

Lindseys wise words : 'I dont think the odd casual sex (without condoms), gives anywhere near the risk associated with a bareback escort who sees many clients a day. Lets guess at 6 a day , thats 30+ a week. And you want to compare that to perhaps 1 casual shag a week after a club or whatever ?'

Re: Escort/model risk ?

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:22 pm
by lindsey
VideoKim and Colin you both need to go to statistics/maths classes.

In the example, the chances are 30 times greater to be exposed to something with the bareback escort seeing 30 clients a week over the one night stand. (Yes the chance is still there that you can get infected by the one-nighter but thats not how stats are calculated.)

I find it incredibly nieve that you think both give the same risk.

And by the way when i said "I didnt think the odd casual sex (without condoms), gives anywhere near the risk associated with a bareback escort who sees many clients a day." That didnt mean i actually am condoning casual sex it or doing it. But it seems that it was enough for you to put your words in other peoples mouths, lol.

Re: Escort/model risk ?

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:54 pm
by lindsey
I can assure you i never insinuated that you were a bareback escort . Infact i dont quite know where you get that idea from ?

Im talking about an escort that states something like "bareback sex ?300/hr". Its pretty straightforward but I also i got actual confirmation from the escort about the services on offer before making my original post, so there is no doubt there.

p.s. To keep the involved persons identity anonymous i altered the price stated. The actual real price stated on the website was much lower.

Re: Escort/model risk ?

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:11 pm
by lindsey
Yes fair enough, i see what you mean and i expect the big producers do know whats going on as they have their ear to the ground.

You know when i said some certed pro models further down the chain were working with these models that worked with the bareback escort. Well the certed pro models involved are producing thier own content. Money pressures or greed and all that - i dont think i need to say more.

Re: Escort/model risk ?

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:36 pm
by lindsey
Im going to leave it at this now because its just causing grief. And for those that actually read the original post fully, i was just asking "if it makes a farce of the certs system and why hadnt it been talked about before ?" ...............
And this was comprehensively answered early on by One Eyed Jack who stated "Yes it does, and it has".



There are those who just want to stick thier head in the sand and pretend bareback escorts working with certed models is not happening or its acceptable risk of the job.

My personal belief is summed up easily:

* If youre certed you shouldnt be working with uncerted people. and that applies to b/g, g/g or group.

* As a certed model you also have an obligation not to miss-lead others who you might work with. This is part of the job. Its not just a stupid piece of paper, its you stating to your co-worker that you are clean. Essentially this means have some moral standards.

Re: Escort/model risk ?

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:17 pm
by one eyed jack
Interesting views going on here at the model vs escort subject


Re: Escort/model risk ?

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:20 pm
by Ron T. Storm
Can we keep this out of a forum that is primarily for people wanting to chat to porn stars and download porn please,

Storm


Re: Escort/model risk ?

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:44 pm
by Snow Patrol
stormchild69 wrote:

> Can we keep this out of a forum that is primarily for people
> wanting to chat to porn stars and download porn please,
>
> Storm
>
>

I agree.


Re: Escort/model risk ?

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:49 pm
by sparky
Quoted -

* If you're certed you shouldn't be working with uncerted people, and that applies to b/g, g/g or group.

* As a certed model you also have an obligation not to miss-lead others who you might work with. This is part of the job. Its not just a stupid piece of paper, its you stating to your co-worker that you are clean. Essentially this means have some moral standards.


From the sidelines this is what I would expect, indeed assume, anyone who gets tested for professional reasons would adhere to.
I would also expect regular partner(s) to be tested regularly both for their own peace of mind and respect for all those in the industry.