Absolutely correct...
I know from a very nerve wracking experience many years ago...
Following a very serious RTA involving a known IV drug user - the whole fire crew had to be Hep B vaccinated and HIV tested... it was a very unsettling experience - the months sat waiting out the incubation period, the months and years after the all clear wondering "what if it takes a bit longer in me for it to become noticeable"...
We were told in no uncertain terms that the eye is the MOST RECEPTIVE part of the body for disease... the stats are alarming - the chance of catching a disease through the eye are apparently higher than any other method of delivery.
Talk to dru users too... many drug users will put acid in their eyes because the optic nerve offers the most effective route to the brain.
I am with Angel on this one. The cerificate is a symbol of professionalism. This industry relies on personal responsibility to protect the integrity of that cert. Compromise it and you are not just putting yourself at risk - you have a duty to maintain the integrity of that cert to protect others in the industry.
Dililema
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David
Re: Dilemma
My own twopennyworth....Yes we know girls do lots of things outside of porn but what is the attraction of standing in a room with your knob out along with 20 or so other blokes waiting for some girl to give you a blowjob/handjob and then come in her face after a lot of blokes have done the same???? From the pix I have seen they don't wipe their faces inbetween each ejaculation. Yeuk!!
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Crome
Re: Dililema
Hi all i felt i had to say a little on the subject simply because i do organise quite a few parties/shoots where bukkake/gb is the subject but i would just like to point out a few things that i think have been missed in this topic.
I totally agree with Angel to a certain degree but at most of the events i have done it is very very rare to see any cum go near the girls eyes let alone actually in her mouth,what you have to relise is the guys are not porn stars so getting them to shoot where you want them to...well lets just say it would be better to draw them a map. Cheeks,chin,neck,breasts you name it but i have maybe only seen it once when a guy actually got a girl in the eye because they are WELL WARNED before hand NOT TO!. As for cum in mouth yes that happens but i have never seen a girl swallow it yet.....maybe that doesnt matter?? anyway.
What i will say is the subject of hiv in the porn industry is a serious thing but let me ask you this i have booked models before and i have counted maybe 10 in the last year that came to shoots at there time of the month!!....now for those who dont know a lot of girls will still work and just use a natural sponge to stop the flow...does this mean it is %1000 safe?? i dont think so and the last time i checked contact with BLOOD was a sure fire way to get hiv!!!!! so you see its not just a cum issue,bukkkae issue its a HIV issue.
I hope i havent offended anyone and maybe i dont know the ins and outs but hopefully we can all get hiv tests as and when we want them and for free in the near future.
All the best Angel
CROME X
I totally agree with Angel to a certain degree but at most of the events i have done it is very very rare to see any cum go near the girls eyes let alone actually in her mouth,what you have to relise is the guys are not porn stars so getting them to shoot where you want them to...well lets just say it would be better to draw them a map. Cheeks,chin,neck,breasts you name it but i have maybe only seen it once when a guy actually got a girl in the eye because they are WELL WARNED before hand NOT TO!. As for cum in mouth yes that happens but i have never seen a girl swallow it yet.....maybe that doesnt matter?? anyway.
What i will say is the subject of hiv in the porn industry is a serious thing but let me ask you this i have booked models before and i have counted maybe 10 in the last year that came to shoots at there time of the month!!....now for those who dont know a lot of girls will still work and just use a natural sponge to stop the flow...does this mean it is %1000 safe?? i dont think so and the last time i checked contact with BLOOD was a sure fire way to get hiv!!!!! so you see its not just a cum issue,bukkkae issue its a HIV issue.
I hope i havent offended anyone and maybe i dont know the ins and outs but hopefully we can all get hiv tests as and when we want them and for free in the near future.
All the best Angel
CROME X
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(fyrfyter) John
To the honourable Crome..
Sir, I am aware that you are probably the nation's number one organiser of these events - and therefore you are bound to wish to justify these parties...
However - I do take umbrage to the fact that you are trying to cloud the issue... Let's disect your justification...
Firstly we'll deal with models and "time of the month"... If the models hold a cert, and that cert has not been compromised. The model is a responsible girl who looks after herself, respects herself, respects the integrity of that certificate and respects her colleagues in the industry - WHERE IS THE PROBLEM...
Now if that model does NOT hold a cert, is practising UNPROTECTED sex with an uncertified stud - indeed it is extremely high risk...
Please do not cloud the issue here - we are talking about responsible models with certificates.
Now bukkake parties are something else.
To say that guys are told NOT to shot in the eye is anything near a safety precaution is quite literally a joke. The volume of cum and the force of the ejculation is such a variable issue that "aim" is an irrelevance.
The fact remains that these girls are being subjected to MASSIVE, MASSIVE risk.
The eye is the MOST RECEPTIVE and MOST LIKELY DELIVERY ROUTE FOR DISEASE - any disease.. be it the common cold, hep B or HIV.... That, my friend, is fact.
Now - DO YU MAKE THE GIRLS AWARE OF THESE RISKS? Are YOU aware of these risks?
These girls are supposed to be professionals. Yes - the integrity of that cert is their personsal and professional responsibility but as an organiser of these events - your actions alone are contemptible because YOU are encouraging these girls to put themselves at increased risk...
Now - if your bisiness was run a professional manner - and indeed it should be- you would bear referebce to health and safety legislation and you'd ensure that all reasonable precautions were taken to protect these girls - provision of Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) - i.e. goggles...
The problem is - this industry runs in the shadows - so nobody bothers with the H&S... and I'm the first to adnit that H&S has gone too far... But this sir - this is one MAJOR issue - you're not just encouraging these girls to put themselves at risk - you're putting the whole industry at risk.
So before you try feeble justification - please consider your own responsibilities....
However - I do take umbrage to the fact that you are trying to cloud the issue... Let's disect your justification...
Firstly we'll deal with models and "time of the month"... If the models hold a cert, and that cert has not been compromised. The model is a responsible girl who looks after herself, respects herself, respects the integrity of that certificate and respects her colleagues in the industry - WHERE IS THE PROBLEM...
Now if that model does NOT hold a cert, is practising UNPROTECTED sex with an uncertified stud - indeed it is extremely high risk...
Please do not cloud the issue here - we are talking about responsible models with certificates.
Now bukkake parties are something else.
To say that guys are told NOT to shot in the eye is anything near a safety precaution is quite literally a joke. The volume of cum and the force of the ejculation is such a variable issue that "aim" is an irrelevance.
The fact remains that these girls are being subjected to MASSIVE, MASSIVE risk.
The eye is the MOST RECEPTIVE and MOST LIKELY DELIVERY ROUTE FOR DISEASE - any disease.. be it the common cold, hep B or HIV.... That, my friend, is fact.
Now - DO YU MAKE THE GIRLS AWARE OF THESE RISKS? Are YOU aware of these risks?
These girls are supposed to be professionals. Yes - the integrity of that cert is their personsal and professional responsibility but as an organiser of these events - your actions alone are contemptible because YOU are encouraging these girls to put themselves at increased risk...
Now - if your bisiness was run a professional manner - and indeed it should be- you would bear referebce to health and safety legislation and you'd ensure that all reasonable precautions were taken to protect these girls - provision of Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) - i.e. goggles...
The problem is - this industry runs in the shadows - so nobody bothers with the H&S... and I'm the first to adnit that H&S has gone too far... But this sir - this is one MAJOR issue - you're not just encouraging these girls to put themselves at risk - you're putting the whole industry at risk.
So before you try feeble justification - please consider your own responsibilities....
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jj
Re: and The Optic Nerve... INTEGRITY and RESPONSIBILTY
.......and I understand certain police-officers are a bit leery nowadays about breaking up 'cat-fights', because of the real risk of getting their eyes clawed.
And not at all because they quite like watching girlies fight.......
And not at all because they quite like watching girlies fight.......
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(fyrfyter) John
Re: and The Optic Nerve... INTEGRITY and RESPONSIBILTY
Not just getting eyes clawed.... We get spat at a lot where I work... a very rough estate. Now getting spat at isn't nice anyway - but we are blessed with visors on our helmets - if it looks like a possibility - my visor is down... I think you'll find that is the concern of coppers - being spat at in the eye....
The eye REALLY is that receptive... a sneeze, rubbing your eyes with dirty hands....
Do NOT understimate the eye as a deivery route for disease!
The eye REALLY is that receptive... a sneeze, rubbing your eyes with dirty hands....
Do NOT understimate the eye as a deivery route for disease!
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Crome
Re: To the honourable Crome..
Thanks for that reply i was simply trying to point out the HIV issue and as you put it ''i encourage girls to do parties??'' not a chance! 99% of the time they contact me and as they are consenting adults it is entirely up to them what they do. I always make them aware of the risks and a lot of the girls i have worked with have used condoms when doing bukkakes and i have to also admit i have faked cum using different substances rather than the actual cum!! NONE of the gb events are ever without condoms but nothing is ever 100% safe!
i take your point about the health and saftey issue and i would love to have 20 or so tested guys but that isnt going to happen in the near future not in the UK anyway.
All i can say is i know of loads of models who do these events and i will always try to make mine as safe as i can.
thanks Crome
i take your point about the health and saftey issue and i would love to have 20 or so tested guys but that isnt going to happen in the near future not in the UK anyway.
All i can say is i know of loads of models who do these events and i will always try to make mine as safe as i can.
thanks Crome
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Fred the Frog
Re: and The Optic Nerve... INTEGRITY and RESPONSIBILTY
I don't.
But I was just having a bit of fun....trying in my pathetic way to lighten a very nasty topic.
But I was just having a bit of fun....trying in my pathetic way to lighten a very nasty topic.
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sandie
Re: To the honourable Crome..
on a lighter point, id just like to officially announce on here - as i did on my yahoo group last thurs that i have retired from participating at these parties. this may please some of u but may disapoint others.
sandiexxx
www.screwsandie.com
sandiexxx
www.screwsandie.com
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(fyrfyter) John
Sandie...
Sandie, I'm sure it is a huge diappointment to the participants. There is no doubt that there will be tremendous attraction to getting "up close and personal" with a pornstar...
The truth of the matter relating to your retirement, however, is this - THERE IS ONLY ONE PERSON WHO MATTERS! It doesn't matter who else it pleases - the decision must be your own and it must be one you justify for your own reasons...
If those in the industry choose not to work with persons doing parties - FREEDOM OF CHOICE... each and ever one of us accepts a level of risk we are happy with...
What has been commendable about your involvement in this scene however is the simple fact that you have NOT hidden it from anyone... Your activities have been widely publicised and well known... it is then up to the individual to draw from that whatever conclusion they wish to make.
I said back in December that I was concerned about these parties - the mix of professionals and non-professionals, the compormise of the certificate risk... and it is indeed a concern - but what is most concerning is the lack of INFORMATION AND AWARENESS ON THIS ISSUE.
I was made aware of the eye as a disease delivery method over 10 years ago - why is this NOT common knowledge in the industry?
I said back in December that it would be an idea for BGAFD to have a "sexual Health Section" - I reiterate that suggestion...
The truth of the matter relating to your retirement, however, is this - THERE IS ONLY ONE PERSON WHO MATTERS! It doesn't matter who else it pleases - the decision must be your own and it must be one you justify for your own reasons...
If those in the industry choose not to work with persons doing parties - FREEDOM OF CHOICE... each and ever one of us accepts a level of risk we are happy with...
What has been commendable about your involvement in this scene however is the simple fact that you have NOT hidden it from anyone... Your activities have been widely publicised and well known... it is then up to the individual to draw from that whatever conclusion they wish to make.
I said back in December that I was concerned about these parties - the mix of professionals and non-professionals, the compormise of the certificate risk... and it is indeed a concern - but what is most concerning is the lack of INFORMATION AND AWARENESS ON THIS ISSUE.
I was made aware of the eye as a disease delivery method over 10 years ago - why is this NOT common knowledge in the industry?
I said back in December that it would be an idea for BGAFD to have a "sexual Health Section" - I reiterate that suggestion...