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Re: Violent scum caught on camera

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:31 pm
by Sam Slater
[quote]You must know that the police target non-whites disproportionately - every survey since year dot says so.[/quote]

I agree to an extent, but maybe it's a chicken & egg situation.

Do the Police target non-whites more because non-whites commit more crime (proportionately), or are more non-white crimes on record because of the targeting specificity of non-whites?

A bearded Muslim guy is going to be a bigger suspect of carrying a bomb than a white guy because of previous experience. A copper looking for suspects of a racist attack on a Sikh will question the white skin-headed guy with tattoos before the Asian youth in the same area.

We all prejudge people from previous experience because that's what keeps us alive. (rightly or wrongly)

[quote]Put it this way - I've been threatened once by the police, never assaulted. I'm white.[/quote]

Maybe you seemed sensible and passive, so there was no need for aggression.

[quote]My son's been assaulted 3 times.[/quote]

To be fair, you've only your sons word. I know for a fact when I was a lad I wouldn't have admitted to being cheeky or aggressive to the Police and admitted as such to my dad. He probably would have told the coppers to give me a clip just to teach me a lesson. (again, rightly or wrongly)

[quote]A black friend of mine had his cousin murdered by the police (no charges of course).[/quote]

I'm sorry to hear that. There can't have been much evidence. Lack of evidence suggests no crime -though that's not definite of course- and there are enough people who could make lots of money out of such a case for no one to be interested in prosecuting, given the chance.

1960's Los Angeles the UK is not........thankfully.


Re: Violent scum caught on camera

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:33 pm
by matt414
SB, you are so fuc***g PC!!! this was not a racist attack, nor did she have a fit!
I don't know if you saw her interview on sky news this morning!?
She does not remember attacking a bouncer, smashing up a car, she does not remember much.... apart from she was hit round the head not arm! she remembers that bit...........
If she had 5 blows to the head don't you think she would be marked? And all she said she had were headaches after! WTF
Well I hope that you never come into some sort of Authority of power mate. stick to what you're good at... sellling other people's porn.

Re: Violent scum caught on camera

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:45 pm
by matt414
SB seems to think that females cannot cause any damage when being violent.
Some of the worse fights I have ever seen have been between girls!

FACT She had no marks to her face, 5 hits to the face would leave them

FACT She was offered medical attention and refused

FACT She pleaded guilty to the charges in court

FACT IT IS A HOME OFFICE APPROVED TECHNIQUE TO GET SOMEONE CUFFED IF THEY ARE RESISTING ARREST! BLACK, WHITE, YELLOW, MAN & WOMEN
Or should they be different methods for different races and sex?

Re: Violent scum caught on camera

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:25 pm
by strictlybroadband
matt414 wrote:

> stick to what you're good at... sellling other
> people's porn.

Thanks for the compliment.


Re: Violent scum caught on camera

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:32 pm
by matt414
Your welcome, !wink!

Re: Violent scum caught on camera

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:51 pm
by jasonhallceltic
i like how you argue super randy! so because people don't agree with you, they don't have a clue about the real world, in my opinoin branding some one an idiot because they don't agree with you is not having a clue about the real world, i've had a drunken women punch, scratch, pull my hair all sorts i wrapped my arms around her so that she couldn't move and held her until she stopped trying to wrestle me off where i then talked sense into her, i'm about 5ft 7 5 ft 8 and weigh 10 stone. i didn't require for of my mates a bouncer and a police dog to stop her!?

Re: Violent scum caught on camera

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:16 pm
by strictlybroadband
Sam Slater wrote:

> A bearded Muslim guy is going to be a bigger suspect of
> carrying a bomb than a white guy because of previous
> experience. A copper looking for suspects of a racist attack on
> a Sikh will question the white skin-headed guy with tattoos
> before the Asian youth in the same area.

The stop and search figures tend to speak for themselves. The sad thing is that this does impact the crime figures, as the more people you stop, the more drugs and knives you'll find. So if you stop more black people, you'll end up with more black people charged for drugs/weapons. This story seems to reappear every year without fail, before and since 9/11.

"But black people were five times more likely to be stopped than white people, according to one of the key findings of the report, entitled Statistics on Race and the Criminal Justice System."

> [quote]My son's been assaulted 3 times.[/quote]
>
> To be fair, you've only your sons word. I know for a fact when
> I was a lad I wouldn't have admitted to being cheeky or
> aggressive to the Police and admitted as such to my dad.

He's very straight with me - he is a lippy bastard. But which other public service gives you a punch in the mouth for being lippy? Doesn't happen in Tescos.

> [quote]A black friend of mine had his cousin murdered by the
> police (no charges of course).[/quote]
>
> I'm sorry to hear that. There can't have been much evidence.
> Lack of evidence suggests no crime -though that's not definite
> of course- and there are enough people who could make lots of
> money out of such a case for no one to be interested in
> prosecuting, given the chance.

Quite a few people have died in police custody - to my knowledge not a single prosecution has ever happened, even where the inquest rules unlawful killing.


Re: Violent scum caught on camera

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:22 pm
by Alex L
SB got it right in his subject line:

"Violent scum caught on camera"

Just for some bizarre PPC reason he's attributing to the Police, trying hard to do a difficult job! She had already carried out criminal damage to a vehicle.