Re: What is it with some of you!
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:56 am
one eyed jack wrote:
> I dont know where you get it from that I have a problem with
> the commercial producers on here.
>
> I am pointing out that i know from my chats to various
> producers why they dont post on here. I still do which
> illustrates when I said I love the smell of napalm in the
> morning.
>
> Maybe I shall keep my comments all pretty and please everyone
> in future and not have an opinion to things I read on here
> which is what I thought forums were about.
This isn't about being pretty or pleasing everyone. It's about accuracy. This is an industry forum not a fan forum.
> Plus what makes me believe more that you are more geared
> towards the fans is your resource section.
>
> If you were really about the industry you would have had a
> reference to model pay on your miscellany section which is
> filled with useful information sure but more towards the fans
> than it is the industry. Its ok for guys cominginto the
> industry to get help but what about advice to the girls. i dot
> see you having a list of clinics here but you say you are about
> industry led. The sponsors you have are all here to sell
> something to the consumer. nothing wrong with that.
A model rates resource is exactly the sort of thing UKAP can do which we cannot and would not want to do. We've no objection to your posting in order to bring UKAP to the attention of whoever you think might benefit from joining. What we object to is the way you've gone about it.
Why can't people use both forums as it best suits them? BGAFD is not an industry site in the sense that UKAP is and it has never occurred to us to try and present it as such. But we do have a forum which serves the industry and has served it pretty well over the past five years. And it's worth remembering, it was only created because so many people in the industry were using the British Girls Forum that it was causing problems. In the words of the great Kevin Costner, we didn't build it so people in the industry would come. They were already here.
> You could shut me up quick if you were to include things that
> would help the talent coming into the industry.
See above.
> While we are at it, you openly allow posts for public to join
> in sex parties but anyone should dare hush the word escort on
> here then it is deleted quick fast too.
Yes, the moderation of 'sex party' posts has been relaxed over the past month or so, for various reasons and this will be reviewed in the new year. We have no moral hang-ups about escorting, just a practical one. Allowing it as a topic would create a whole new set of moderating issues that we simply don't have the resources to deal with. More importantly, it's always been our policy to maintain these forums as a primary resource for UK porn and to exclude anything that might detract from that aim.
> Maybe you should smell what your shovelling too.
The BS dig, albeit a smiley-ed one, wasn't helpful and we withdraw it.
> No doubt I'll probably have my profile deleted too...or even
> worse have this very same post edited if it offends you.
Posts / posters are edited or removed because they've breached the FAQ, not because we've thrown a hissy-fit - and you know that. Apart from this 'fan forum' stuff you've been one of the most level-headed and constructive posters on these forums over the years and we're sorry this issue has arisen at all. You have robustly stated your opinion on many subjects over the years without any intervention from us, because you've never given us any cause to intervene (that we can recall). In the course of things, you've rubbed some people up the wrong way and they've done the same to you, but by-and-large you've avoided resorting to abuse or other FAQ busting antics and that is all we ask. If you make a point constructively you can say just about anything, assuming it isn't libellous or likely to provoke an unintentional breach of the FAQ.
> I dont know where you get it from that I have a problem with
> the commercial producers on here.
>
> I am pointing out that i know from my chats to various
> producers why they dont post on here. I still do which
> illustrates when I said I love the smell of napalm in the
> morning.
>
> Maybe I shall keep my comments all pretty and please everyone
> in future and not have an opinion to things I read on here
> which is what I thought forums were about.
This isn't about being pretty or pleasing everyone. It's about accuracy. This is an industry forum not a fan forum.
> Plus what makes me believe more that you are more geared
> towards the fans is your resource section.
>
> If you were really about the industry you would have had a
> reference to model pay on your miscellany section which is
> filled with useful information sure but more towards the fans
> than it is the industry. Its ok for guys cominginto the
> industry to get help but what about advice to the girls. i dot
> see you having a list of clinics here but you say you are about
> industry led. The sponsors you have are all here to sell
> something to the consumer. nothing wrong with that.
A model rates resource is exactly the sort of thing UKAP can do which we cannot and would not want to do. We've no objection to your posting in order to bring UKAP to the attention of whoever you think might benefit from joining. What we object to is the way you've gone about it.
Why can't people use both forums as it best suits them? BGAFD is not an industry site in the sense that UKAP is and it has never occurred to us to try and present it as such. But we do have a forum which serves the industry and has served it pretty well over the past five years. And it's worth remembering, it was only created because so many people in the industry were using the British Girls Forum that it was causing problems. In the words of the great Kevin Costner, we didn't build it so people in the industry would come. They were already here.
> You could shut me up quick if you were to include things that
> would help the talent coming into the industry.
See above.
> While we are at it, you openly allow posts for public to join
> in sex parties but anyone should dare hush the word escort on
> here then it is deleted quick fast too.
Yes, the moderation of 'sex party' posts has been relaxed over the past month or so, for various reasons and this will be reviewed in the new year. We have no moral hang-ups about escorting, just a practical one. Allowing it as a topic would create a whole new set of moderating issues that we simply don't have the resources to deal with. More importantly, it's always been our policy to maintain these forums as a primary resource for UK porn and to exclude anything that might detract from that aim.
> Maybe you should smell what your shovelling too.
The BS dig, albeit a smiley-ed one, wasn't helpful and we withdraw it.
> No doubt I'll probably have my profile deleted too...or even
> worse have this very same post edited if it offends you.
Posts / posters are edited or removed because they've breached the FAQ, not because we've thrown a hissy-fit - and you know that. Apart from this 'fan forum' stuff you've been one of the most level-headed and constructive posters on these forums over the years and we're sorry this issue has arisen at all. You have robustly stated your opinion on many subjects over the years without any intervention from us, because you've never given us any cause to intervene (that we can recall). In the course of things, you've rubbed some people up the wrong way and they've done the same to you, but by-and-large you've avoided resorting to abuse or other FAQ busting antics and that is all we ask. If you make a point constructively you can say just about anything, assuming it isn't libellous or likely to provoke an unintentional breach of the FAQ.