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If the man's full of fear, then it's well founded.

If this is shown to be a just, legally legitimate action, then I will be buying eggs to throw at the whole stinking lot of them, cross-party.

[quote]I don't think Islam is fascist to the core.[/quote]

In what way isn't it? I can give you my reasons why I think it is.

Just looking up fascism on wikipedia tells me that it is:

1) "a radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology...".

2) "Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state."

3) "Fascist governments forbid and suppress criticism and opposition to the government and the fascist movement."

So let's compare this with the teachings of Islam, shall we? Is living your life according to the rules of a single creator not in any way authoritarian to you? Are the people who watch over others, making sure they abide by these rules not supporting an authoritarian ideology? I say "check," and "check."

Advocating single-party states..... Well doesn't Islamists advocate single party states? Where in the Quran does it give Muslims the freedom to choose elected leaders? I say "check".

As for number 3, well.... We all know that the Quran and Sharia cannot be criticised or opposed in any way. Opposing the Quran's teachings makes you an apostate. Can you tell me what the Quran says about apostates, Reggie? I say "check".

[quote]The essential teaching is peaceful and very positive.[/quote]

No it isn't. The essential teaching is that there is only one God and that Islam is THE right path in which to live your life and please God. The BNP's essential philosophy could be peace and positivity once everyone in the country was white but taking everything else into context then I'd have to say they display certain characteristics with fascism ? as does Islam.

[quote]The Koran is written in verse which gives an idea of the lyrical quality of the belief system.[/quote]

Can you then please read the poetic bits about how homosexuals and apostates should be killed, Reggie? You can be as poetic as you want but you can't hide bigotry and ignorance for long.

[quote]When people say they hate Islam they really mean the people who practise Islam and their culture.[/quote]

No it doesn't. Islamists would like to give everybody the impression that this is true because it helps in diverting criticism their way. Islam is an ideology not a race and ideologies should be open to as much criticism as any other idea or principle someone adheres to.

[quote]If Islam is fascist then all the other semitic religions are too.[/quote]

I agree. I've said this exact thing numerous times and to be fair, quite recently. () And, as you can see, you didn't have too much to say about my belief then when it was said in the context of criticising Catholicism. I have no qualms in pointing out the cosy relationship the Roman Catholic Church has had with fascistic regimes and juntas in Spain and Croatia in the past.

Both Islamists and fascists see themselves as superior to others; both despise and suppress opposition and criticism; both are bigoted when it comes to homosexuality or 'outsiders' and scared of progress; both ideologies revolve around leader worship and suppress the feminine; and both have a history of banning art and burning books. Anybody different is treated unequally and a second-class citizen in every aspect of life, if they're tolerated at all, with the only difference being that one is based on the inequality of race, the other religion.

In my book it's fascism, and yes, that includes Judaism and Christianity.

And lets get this 'extremist' and 'moderate' Muslim thing out of the way while we're on the subject can we? When it comes to Islam there is no 'extreme' Muslims and no 'moderate' Muslims. There are only good and bad Muslims. If a Muslim is against the killing of apostates then I'm sure you'll agree with me that that is a good thing. No? We call him moderate but in the eyes of the Quran he is a bad Muslim because the Quran is a little different to the Bible in that it's not looked upon metaphorically. It is the unchallengeable, literal word of God. Breaking any rule makes you a bad Muslim.

Amen.

Took the words right out of my mouth, there, Reginald!