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Firstly, may I say that your posting is amongst the "deepest" I think I have ever read - and I respect that immensely. You have stated your well considered and very well reasoned opinion clearly, eloquently and in great detail... However, I can't say I'm at ease with this sort of argument; in particular this bit:

Personally I'm not entirely comforatable with the notion that sex should become a commodity freely traded through the market by profit-driven corporations (just imagine McDonalds fast-sex outlets). That's why I think its important that society tries to get some sort of clarity, or general agreement on what constitutes prostitution. I think this would serve to clarify (in a legal way at least) what parts of the sex industry fall into the sphere of prostitution, and what doesn't. With a view to the forthcoming legislation I think this could be important as it can legitimise those activities such as porn, telephone sex, sex shows, peep shows etc etc where the test of physical proximity can be used.

Well, for what it is worth, I actually think we get far too hung up about the issue of sex. And I personally don't give two hoots whether sex becomes/is a "freelytraded commondity" or not... If it's ok for hard, physical labour or deep, analytical thinking or stunning good looks to be a freely traded commodity - why not sex?

Am I comfortable with it? Hell yes! Providing it's through choice and not through duress - I really cannot see a problem... Many of the problems we have in this country are related to the fact that there is too much legislation, we are too heavily regulated - but not only that - with so much legislation and with so many things being so heavily regulated there is consequent difficulty when the legislation/regulation is obscure or not wholly relevant - the grey areas....

Quite simply - we're hung up about something we shouldn't be - this is down to legislation and regulation, moralist issues, feminist issues - all perpetuating a culture of fear and silence on the issue...

Live and let live!

some frontline support for your position re. usage of the word "whore":

Whore!

Thanks Woody,
I just joined
(If Robin Hood had his dsruthers, and if it happened, the evil fucking Sheriff would not have lasted for as long. An arrow though the oesophagos tends to have quite an impressiuon).

More seriously, if ALL these organisations got together to form a common bond, THEN we could maybe get somewhewre.
My (slightly) daft PPP was conceived on the spur of the moment as you are well aware, but serious neverthewless.
Someone (I have neither the time/energy/knowledge to do it, should amalgamate us all.

FUCK THE ESTABLISHMENT
FUCK WARS
FUCK RELIGION

Sex, booze/rock ;n roll YEAH..................................................

I recall commenting at the time that although the sentiment is a noble one, and the way you sprang into action is testament to your character - it is a little, idunno... I'm trying to be very tactful here... poorly conceived?

I'm all for a political party that is PRO-PORN, pro liberal attitudes to sex etc... but I'm absolutely certain that a party with such a name is going to be viewed very much as simply another "nonsensical", "farcical", wind-up along the lines of the late Lortd Sutch's outfit, the Monster Raving Loonies...

It is a serious issue and therefore needs to be tackled in a manner that is going to o some way towards making people listen... the name itself would switch of large chunks of the community before they heard what we had to say... WHY? Because they're following the herd... conditioned to submit to the culture of fear promoted by the feminists and the moralists who until now have shouted the loudest....

I respect the action taken, please don't get me wrong, I just think it should be re-named and a broad and wide ranging manifesto set out...

fryfyter,
I agree. It was concieved as (a) abit of fun, (b) from curiosity as to what it would/could provoke and (c) How much seriousness it would attract.
The results spoeak for themselves!!
No-one gives a shit as long as they can buy trheir porn (Which is surely/certainly fair enough). Why put your ass on the line when you don't have to?(even anonymously)

82nd post. Sorry about that.

Look, it doesn't take much of a search to find websites online through which porn stars (and big ones at that) supply services for a fee (and a big one at that). What we watch when we watch porn is the recording of someone prostituting themselves to the sex industry. And in the same way, we're all prostitutes to whatever company we all work for.

Bet they have more fun, though.

And maybe that's the point...

I'd really like to know who came up with the absurd 'immoral earnings'

Seems to me it should be more closely worded to reflect its original purpose Stopping organised crime IMO

It would seem that religion really has its hooks into our so called democratic state.

As they say:legislation its all in the wording

cheers
B....OZ

PS Armageddon = Theocracy IMO

Can see it now...perverts,porn fans,adulterers being slaughtered at the Re-Built Wembley Colusseum...whilst the morally righteous watch on

I think it's a little more technical than that... As I have said in numerous posts on numerous threads in the last few weeks, a culture of fear exists around porn... The moralists, the puritans, the feminists - they've shouted the loudest, society has been mouded by these people...

We can only change it slowly.

I have admitted myself - it is only in the last 12months or so that I have chosen to stand up and be counted... in years gone by I'd choose to look the other way, sit in silence rather than argue in favour of porn and liberal sex in general... I wouldn't say I was being hypocriticsal back then - I certainly wasn't speaking out against it - I was just staying silent. I was just choosing the path of least resistance. None of us like to be singled out as "vermin" - and that is what the feminist, puritan attitudes would result in a vocal pro-porner being branded - filthy, perverted vermin....

But I have changed. I genuinely feel I can argue a good case. I'm even prepared to feature in the stuff, would dearly love to be in the industry - and my desire to be closer to the industry grows with each passing day... I think it is a vibrant, exciting industry... We should be proud of it...

And I am being totally, genuinely honest when I say that I believe that national Brit-Porn Awards would be a healthy starting place... And I know you (Marcus) disagree with me, but I do feel that if financial backers were not apparent we should STILL PRESS AHEAD and hold it in a village oub if neessary!

Would we be seen as a joke? Undoubtedly the feminists and the puritans would promote that line of thinking... But at worst, it would be good publicity and above all it sends out a message that we are PROUD of the industry... And I guarantee that this ceremony would grow... it would send a signal out to the politicos... it would send a signal out to the public at large, it would generate discussion, it would generate interest in the business.... AND YEAR AFTER YEAR IT WOULD BECOME AN ARBITER ON THE STATE OF THE INDUSTRY... And when we reach the glity, razzamataz style ceremony in some posh venue in central London - we'll know we've made it and we'll know we were part of it - and by that time THE POLITICIANS WILL HAVE BEEN FORCED TO GET OFF THE FENCE!