Was'nt there a film where WOODY ALLEN,perhaps "Everything you wanted to know about Sex".,completely covered himself with a condom...and always available in super stores-rubber gloves,for the use of...
...and the saying "A ten foot barge pole" really has 'meaning' in today's World.
Bedroom doors and studios should have a neon sign saying "PROCEED WITH CAUTION ALL THAT ENTER HERE"..
Certain diseases lay dormant for years,sometimes undetected until the last thing,ask any member of the medical profession-leaving bits of paper about testing a little insignificant..it may clear you in the short term but it does NOT give you an 'all-clear' for the long term,that's the chance you take.
It's like the boy/girl one night stands,it will never effect us...
Not until your Dick drops off-or you have un-explained sores that spring from nowhere...
TheProf.
Dililema
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Toby
More Dilemmas
Angel,
This raises another question, in my opinion, with regards to models who also do extra work outside of the glamour model shoots.
Any model who does bukkake, parties and private 1-2-1's are putting themselves and their co-stars at risk if they are not tested at least monthly if not weekly (dependent upon their schedules) unless they use common sense and precautions - or feel they can trust the person they are with.
With more and more models (including award-winners and 'Top Porn Stars') appearing upon sites, will casting agents, photographers and co-stars start to not cast these people due to the risk involved?
In America, it seems any adult star found doing "extra work" finds it tougher to get work whilst those who purely model in controlled conditions find it easier.
So perhaps the dilemma is more about which co-stars people will work with, especially with the amount of private work now going on.
Meanwhile, I'm calling Indigo in the near future to book an appointment as I've just read that UK Health Report - scary stuff..
Tobe
This raises another question, in my opinion, with regards to models who also do extra work outside of the glamour model shoots.
Any model who does bukkake, parties and private 1-2-1's are putting themselves and their co-stars at risk if they are not tested at least monthly if not weekly (dependent upon their schedules) unless they use common sense and precautions - or feel they can trust the person they are with.
With more and more models (including award-winners and 'Top Porn Stars') appearing upon sites, will casting agents, photographers and co-stars start to not cast these people due to the risk involved?
In America, it seems any adult star found doing "extra work" finds it tougher to get work whilst those who purely model in controlled conditions find it easier.
So perhaps the dilemma is more about which co-stars people will work with, especially with the amount of private work now going on.
Meanwhile, I'm calling Indigo in the near future to book an appointment as I've just read that UK Health Report - scary stuff..
Tobe
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Phil McC
What Dililema
Correct on the Woody thing, also in the Big Sleep he suggested than in the future computers would be far better and safer to have sex with, a simple phone box converted could give hours of fun without any dangers,, his suggestion, some day we would be a world of wankers is not that far off. no need to buy 10 pints to get yourself good looking a simple PDA card into the old box and there is Jenna or even Kylie licking your shaft,,,,sounds good to me. one problem. and it has been totally missed and I sure I will get some flack over this but.....a standing cock has no conscience and that goes for us all (guys) and for the girls I have been with a few mmmm so I think I am fairly qualified to have an opinion most will break the rules if they get up for it.
I have seen porn girls demand to see HIV tests from actors then go out a shag a bloke they picked up in a pub. How many girls who are in the industry have boyfriends that are tested. very very few. So they always use condoms with their husbands or boyfriends, no chance. I bet they don't need to because the boyfriends are faithfull. Next time everyone brings a letter from the boyfriend as well as an HIV test.
Get real this is pornography, what Uncle Ben succesful is against everything that has been said,,,he meets an ordinary girl in the street, he chats the pants of her, she has never done anything before but for him she will try, she loves it turns into a wantant slut and demands DP'd...well is that not the plot. So if it is not what the punters want then why do they buy it. Fuck truck is a bunch of lads led by a lad traveling the country shagging up for it chicks.. we don't have any scripts about hospitals and safe sex because you do want educated you want entertained.. or am I wrong.
Everyone has missed the simple fact you have a mind, do the job or don't. But don't do it then complain. I have been over 20 years in this industry and would be happy to put my dick in any of the UK girls whether they have done a Bukkate or gangbang shoot..if they would let me. Offers please !!!
Final Fact. you should encourage screening regularly as possible because it the other STD nasty's like clamidia, Gonorea, HEP, warts etc we have to worry about I would even go as far as making a test compusory every month. No one should work unless they have a full STD test not a Basic HIV test. And stop telling them they will all get HIV through the eyes cause it's not been recorded yet and therfore you have more chance of dieing from being hit by space junk.
Phil McC
I have seen porn girls demand to see HIV tests from actors then go out a shag a bloke they picked up in a pub. How many girls who are in the industry have boyfriends that are tested. very very few. So they always use condoms with their husbands or boyfriends, no chance. I bet they don't need to because the boyfriends are faithfull. Next time everyone brings a letter from the boyfriend as well as an HIV test.
Get real this is pornography, what Uncle Ben succesful is against everything that has been said,,,he meets an ordinary girl in the street, he chats the pants of her, she has never done anything before but for him she will try, she loves it turns into a wantant slut and demands DP'd...well is that not the plot. So if it is not what the punters want then why do they buy it. Fuck truck is a bunch of lads led by a lad traveling the country shagging up for it chicks.. we don't have any scripts about hospitals and safe sex because you do want educated you want entertained.. or am I wrong.
Everyone has missed the simple fact you have a mind, do the job or don't. But don't do it then complain. I have been over 20 years in this industry and would be happy to put my dick in any of the UK girls whether they have done a Bukkate or gangbang shoot..if they would let me. Offers please !!!
Final Fact. you should encourage screening regularly as possible because it the other STD nasty's like clamidia, Gonorea, HEP, warts etc we have to worry about I would even go as far as making a test compusory every month. No one should work unless they have a full STD test not a Basic HIV test. And stop telling them they will all get HIV through the eyes cause it's not been recorded yet and therfore you have more chance of dieing from being hit by space junk.
Phil McC
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shaz
i agree
Angel, i agree, i hav been doin these shoots for sum time now & lately due 2 ill health (not sexually related) i hav had a good think about this & decided 2 give it up, it is far 2 risky & lets face it what girl doesnt take cum in her mouth??? she dont hav 2 swallow it 2 catch anything once its entered her mouth thats BINGO!!
ok out of 5 shoots u may do it only takes one guy 2 b infected & BLAST u with it!! not good for then goin on 2 work with the pros this defeats our purpose of even getting tested.
my conclusion is: Girls who wish 2 do pro video shoots DONT do these private Bukkake & GB party's! TOO RISKY!!
an option would b: All guys wishing 2 partisipate in any of these party's MUST OBTAIN AN H.I.V/STD CERTIFICATE!!
its all very well using condoms but they can burst!!
well thats all iv got 2 say on the matter good luck Angel
lov shaz xxx
ok out of 5 shoots u may do it only takes one guy 2 b infected & BLAST u with it!! not good for then goin on 2 work with the pros this defeats our purpose of even getting tested.
my conclusion is: Girls who wish 2 do pro video shoots DONT do these private Bukkake & GB party's! TOO RISKY!!
an option would b: All guys wishing 2 partisipate in any of these party's MUST OBTAIN AN H.I.V/STD CERTIFICATE!!
its all very well using condoms but they can burst!!
well thats all iv got 2 say on the matter good luck Angel
lov shaz xxx
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son of reg
Re: Curious
I'm fairly new to this game, but, outside of the money that the girls get for normal b/g hardcore stuff. Is the G/B and Bukkake stuff that better well paid to be worth the risk. At least with normal hardcore they can be some sort of 'chemistry' between the 'actors' involved, but bukkake is another kettle of fish entirely. This was the first I 've even heard of 'known models' doing bukkake work, is this common place. Or am I just being a bit naive.
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steve56
message to shaz
ive used lots of condoms there ok,only 1 split and that was in 1981,think they make them better now.
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richierich
Well done Sandie
Yes totally agree with the lovely Shaz, good on yer girl!
Also would like to say well done to Sandie for making a stand on the discussions of this thread, this is the message that has just appeared on her yahoo group:
IMPORTANT NOTICE! due to recent conversations i would like to announce that those guys with a full and current HIV and STD test will have priority on the guest list for my parties now. all non certificated people will have to use condoms (even for bukkake) and will be limited to where they may off load! mail me at the address below for advice on tests etc.
Good for her in making the very first step!! Are others going to follow?
She also gives some helpful details of how to go about getting an HIV test:
I require a certificate from a private clinic or ur local hospital
GUM/sexual health clinic. this must be no more than 30 days old and
show a complete HIV and STD test. its also advisable to collect ur
hepatitis a and b vacinations whilst there. these are all free at ur
local hospital/clinic.
WARNING! do check tho before u have the tests that ur clinic does
issue certificates. dont do like i did and have the tests, wait 2
weeks then be told i cant have a certificate.
there are some private clinic that charge for the tests but u usually
get the results the same day.
here are 2 i have used before.
regents park clinic, 184 glouster place, london, nw1 6ds. 02074022208
medical express clinic, 117a harley st, london, w1n 1dh 02074991991
here is the industrys NHS clinic.
u get all ur tests and vacinations free and u can collect ur HIV
results the same day (only on thursdays tho). ur STD results can be
sent to u a week later.
the indigo clinic, west london sexual health centre, charing cross
hospital, fulham palace rd, london, w6 8rf. 02088461579
NOT ALL OTHER NHS BASED CLINICS WILL OFFER A SERVICE AS GOOD AS THIS.
thats why they are the industrys NHS clinic.
when u go for ur test please ask for them to print ur passport or
driving licence no. on the certificate. (so remember to take this
with u).
thank u all in advance for ur support in this matter. it will be
interesting to see the outcome.
lets carry on having fun but make it safe hey!
sandiexxx
www.screwsandie.com
groups.yahoo.com/group/spunksuckingsandie69/
Also would like to say well done to Sandie for making a stand on the discussions of this thread, this is the message that has just appeared on her yahoo group:
IMPORTANT NOTICE! due to recent conversations i would like to announce that those guys with a full and current HIV and STD test will have priority on the guest list for my parties now. all non certificated people will have to use condoms (even for bukkake) and will be limited to where they may off load! mail me at the address below for advice on tests etc.
Good for her in making the very first step!! Are others going to follow?
She also gives some helpful details of how to go about getting an HIV test:
I require a certificate from a private clinic or ur local hospital
GUM/sexual health clinic. this must be no more than 30 days old and
show a complete HIV and STD test. its also advisable to collect ur
hepatitis a and b vacinations whilst there. these are all free at ur
local hospital/clinic.
WARNING! do check tho before u have the tests that ur clinic does
issue certificates. dont do like i did and have the tests, wait 2
weeks then be told i cant have a certificate.
there are some private clinic that charge for the tests but u usually
get the results the same day.
here are 2 i have used before.
regents park clinic, 184 glouster place, london, nw1 6ds. 02074022208
medical express clinic, 117a harley st, london, w1n 1dh 02074991991
here is the industrys NHS clinic.
u get all ur tests and vacinations free and u can collect ur HIV
results the same day (only on thursdays tho). ur STD results can be
sent to u a week later.
the indigo clinic, west london sexual health centre, charing cross
hospital, fulham palace rd, london, w6 8rf. 02088461579
NOT ALL OTHER NHS BASED CLINICS WILL OFFER A SERVICE AS GOOD AS THIS.
thats why they are the industrys NHS clinic.
when u go for ur test please ask for them to print ur passport or
driving licence no. on the certificate. (so remember to take this
with u).
thank u all in advance for ur support in this matter. it will be
interesting to see the outcome.
lets carry on having fun but make it safe hey!
sandiexxx
www.screwsandie.com
groups.yahoo.com/group/spunksuckingsandie69/
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Toby
Bit Hypocritical
Richie,
After reading this message, you would think some people would be against doing parties and events - concentrating uopn movies and photo shoots with other professional.
However, I just saw the following posting and noticed it's not the cast
http://www.punternet.com/db/readmsg.php?msg=6215
Makes me wonder whether some people are making the decision more upon an economic nature than a hygiene nature.... (ok so I'm a cynic...)
Thoughts and opinions all...
Toby
(PS Apologise if this breaches the rules)
After reading this message, you would think some people would be against doing parties and events - concentrating uopn movies and photo shoots with other professional.
However, I just saw the following posting and noticed it's not the cast
http://www.punternet.com/db/readmsg.php?msg=6215
Makes me wonder whether some people are making the decision more upon an economic nature than a hygiene nature.... (ok so I'm a cynic...)
Thoughts and opinions all...
Toby
(PS Apologise if this breaches the rules)
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(fyrfyter) John
Good Judgement and Common Sense...
This is extremely heartening to read Shaz.
Everything in life does boil down to taking a level of risk you are comfortable with. I happen to think that these "all the rage" parties are a risk too far.
NOT ONLY FOR THE GIRL/S DOING THE PARTY - but for those tested individuals who subsequently work with the following next few weeks. The girl doing the party might have been happy with the level of risk - but she has a responsibility to protect the integrity of that cert for the benefit of those she subsequently works with...
I'm not pleased to hear Phil say "There are no cases of infection through the eye" - IS THAT FACT PHIL??? I don't think there is a doctor in the world that would testify to that... The EYE is very receptive to disease - that is FACT... a sneeze in the eye will transmit the common cold or any other disease... There are many conflicting reports over the dangers of unproytected oral sex - it all depends on which report you read...
I do wholeheartedly agree however that it is up to the indivudual and their chosen level of risk - but they have a duty to make sure those working with them are aware of the risks they are taking....
Phil says he'd be happy to put hids dick in any UK girl - fine... not got a problem with that - but there might be some guys who wouldn't be so confident... and there night well be girls who would choose not to have his dick amnywhere near them after having read what he said...
I stress again that it is a FACT that the eye is a known delivery route for disease... the nerve endings, blood vessel etc, the fact that the eye is a nice damp and warm site, the type of domain in which disease will thrive... It is fact and it cannot be denied. There may be no known recorded cases of HIV through the eye - but no doctor in the world would say it hasn't happened or wouldn't happen - because it CAN.
Everything in life does boil down to taking a level of risk you are comfortable with. I happen to think that these "all the rage" parties are a risk too far.
NOT ONLY FOR THE GIRL/S DOING THE PARTY - but for those tested individuals who subsequently work with the following next few weeks. The girl doing the party might have been happy with the level of risk - but she has a responsibility to protect the integrity of that cert for the benefit of those she subsequently works with...
I'm not pleased to hear Phil say "There are no cases of infection through the eye" - IS THAT FACT PHIL??? I don't think there is a doctor in the world that would testify to that... The EYE is very receptive to disease - that is FACT... a sneeze in the eye will transmit the common cold or any other disease... There are many conflicting reports over the dangers of unproytected oral sex - it all depends on which report you read...
I do wholeheartedly agree however that it is up to the indivudual and their chosen level of risk - but they have a duty to make sure those working with them are aware of the risks they are taking....
Phil says he'd be happy to put hids dick in any UK girl - fine... not got a problem with that - but there might be some guys who wouldn't be so confident... and there night well be girls who would choose not to have his dick amnywhere near them after having read what he said...
I stress again that it is a FACT that the eye is a known delivery route for disease... the nerve endings, blood vessel etc, the fact that the eye is a nice damp and warm site, the type of domain in which disease will thrive... It is fact and it cannot be denied. There may be no known recorded cases of HIV through the eye - but no doctor in the world would say it hasn't happened or wouldn't happen - because it CAN.
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faye rampton
Re: Dililema
hi !
have read this thread with great interest and worry ! must admit i was not aware of the high risk of catching hiv through the eyes i always thought anal was the easiest way !
i agree with sandie that from now on guys should be tested to attend bukkake or use a condom and all other safety aspects taken into account as they always have been !
i have always worried about girls that do escorting or who go out shagging whoever on nights out and the risk they pose is just as scary as the bukkake scene !girls i never expected have turned out that they escort i just hope they take correct safety measures !
i enjoy doin bukkake and love the interaction with normal guys and fans just hope they are all willing to go get tested for us !
must admit so far ive only ever caught one std and that was through a professional shoot !
yes hiv is a risk and i agree with phil that u r more likely to get hit by space junk ! but a risk is a risk ! i myself worry more about the increase in other stds which although not fatal can have other serious side effects ! would like to see it compulsory that all people in porn get tested for all stds regularly !
faye xxxxx
www.fuckfaye.com
have read this thread with great interest and worry ! must admit i was not aware of the high risk of catching hiv through the eyes i always thought anal was the easiest way !
i agree with sandie that from now on guys should be tested to attend bukkake or use a condom and all other safety aspects taken into account as they always have been !
i have always worried about girls that do escorting or who go out shagging whoever on nights out and the risk they pose is just as scary as the bukkake scene !girls i never expected have turned out that they escort i just hope they take correct safety measures !
i enjoy doin bukkake and love the interaction with normal guys and fans just hope they are all willing to go get tested for us !
must admit so far ive only ever caught one std and that was through a professional shoot !
yes hiv is a risk and i agree with phil that u r more likely to get hit by space junk ! but a risk is a risk ! i myself worry more about the increase in other stds which although not fatal can have other serious side effects ! would like to see it compulsory that all people in porn get tested for all stds regularly !
faye xxxxx
www.fuckfaye.com