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I'm thinking of subscribing but which is the best , i am really more interested in the channels that show the most british programmes , sky has so many to choose from !!!
Plus how discreet are they i have no problems with my credit card bill having reference but what about the sky bill

many thanks

Go for TAC it has the best programs and the best looking women.

It has that good mix of both British and Eastern European babes.

There is a decline in B/G stuff for good looking Brit babes. The Euro babes are like super models and they take it up the ass too !!!!!

I must admit seeing Vikki Powell doing B/G has started to change my mind.

Interesting points concerning Sky and quite correct. Perhaps Ofcom might be persuaded to take some action on this issue at some point in the future. As for hardcore on Sky we should have some idea by the "summer" of 2004 and we should know for certain at the end of the year. Virtual round of drinks for the winner!

You are also right to say that all Sky output is softcore, but there are still noticable differences between channels and I believe that TAC content is currently not as explicit as Xplicit (can't comment on the quality). I would be interested to hear from anyone who has seen both channels this year.

I would say TVX has the most British content as far as I am aware.

Magoo

You're quite wrong mate as to the reasons why Bskyb moved to 28* East, the primary reason they utilise Videoguard is quite simple, it has never been hacked. Until quite recently as you well know many european satellite suppliers suffered the scurge of hackers who would by programmers and blank cards help themselves to the content. Bskyb they have never suffered this problem that has led to the downfall of many companies including ITV digital who had more unofficial subscribers than official beacuse it was widely hacked. It should also be noted that Sky Italia offers Hardcore channels on it's platform.

The real reason why hardcore channels are not allowed in th UK is because of the Govt ad lack of political will to change these matters. I also question why companies such as TAC, TVX etc do not create much of a fuss, is it because they are happy with the way things are and fleecing Joe Bloggs who may not know what they could receive with a small investment in a euro satelite receiver such as the one me and you have.

All The best

JP

I dont understand why there is this presumption that "hard-core" is by definition, good and softcore bad. You are saying the UK stations are "fleecing" their customers, why? There are many people who are quite happy with soft entertainment and what does hardcore offer anyway except hours of the same boring body builders shagging the same boring Yank/ Euro porn starlets, with no entertainment value at all. I once had to endure an evening of "Private Gold", I wanted to pull my teeth out one by one to alleviate the boredom! Listening to those studs groaning, "Ya Lets fuck de beech", "Ya ist good" and the girls, "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, I'm cuuuuuummmmmmiiiing" ..............yeah right!
Give me TVX anyday!
On a serious note though, you should remember we had 18 years of reactionary right wing nut-cases running this country, with people like Mary Whitehouse, who at the height of her power had about 20 members of her association, controlling the media. Therefore I think everyone involved in broadcasting smut wants to take it step by step and I think slowly we will come out of the dark ages and join the rest of the world, (apart from North Korea and Iran and a few other countries)) and be able to watch what we want.

David

You know as well as I know that channels such as TAC and TVX play on ignorance of the general public, why else would they continually urge customers in their 'Freeview' to subscribe as things get 'much harder' after 11pm/midnight etc. This claim is blatantly untrue, material doesn't become harder after encryption. What these channels employ is the David S****van brand of stretching the truth of what material is being delivered to the customer, i.e. they promise one thing, deliver another.

Not arguing with you about the need for soft core material for the customer who wishes this material, what I want is for soft core channels/producers to stop conning customers that what they are purchasing is hardcore. Label yourself as softcore in your trailers/box covers for your movies/videos/dvd's etc and let hardcore producers do the same, that way then the customer will have a clear idea of what they are purchasing.

JP

So you're saying that noone tells lies in the world of hard core??!! So all the producers on this site that say their product is the best ever are all telling the truth?
I don't think people are as naive as you think, I havn't heard a freeview promising "Hard core porn" after encryption. They say things are "harder after encryption", which is in fact correct.
How many hard core box covers promise stuff you don't actually get to see.

David

I'll answer your points one by one

David lever - "So you're saying that noone tells lies in the world of hard core??!! So all the producers on this site that say their product is the best ever are all telling the truth?"

JP - No, I don't think that, they are in the most full of bullshitt about the quality of their product, however the one thing they are true about their product is that it is hardcore (i.e. full penetration etc).


David Lever - I don't think people are as naive as you think, I havn't heard a freeview promising "Hard core porn" after encryption. They say things are "harder after encryption", which is in fact correct.

JP - I'm sorry but you're wrong if you think that, there are literally thousands of people out there who have purchased a product be it via a sex shop or via a satellite TV channel that think they are getting something that is true hardcore but actually get softcore or even worse a video of picture scans (as I did in my nieve days).

David Lever - How many hard core box covers promise stuff you don't actually get to see.

JP - So why don't softcore producers/distributers etc stop using 'XXX' as a marketing technique on their product, they are manipulating a trading and standards loophole in that 'XXX' is not officicially recognised as a standard between what is regarded as 'Softcore' and what is 'Hardcore'


I again re-iterate my point why don't all producers/distributers/channels who utilise softcore material properly inform customers of what they are about to purchase. The proof is how many posters on this forum still beleive that you can get hardcore via TAC, TVX etc.

JP