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Always makes laugh to see British/European companies advertising on this site that their DVD's are now at the "all time low price" of ?20 each for their products.

Jesus, I've just purchased four 4hr Vivid DVDs from Fivestar for ?21 including P&P, I also did the same last month.

The question must be asked, why do punters on this site continue to pay such inflated prices for products that are a quarter of the price in the U.S.

I appreciate that some of the bigger sites such as Fivestar don't stock much Brit material but there are companies out there who do, so shop around.

JP

Intresting to note that the site sponsers DVDs are quite high in price in comparison to, well ......most, really. One of their reasons is that they deliver from within the UK, however this isn't even an issue anymore. Customs will not now stop adult DVDs from being sent into the country for personal use, if the material involved is legal. The only time customs would open an adult DVD package is if it was valued at more than ?18. In which case you'd have to pay duty. YourChoice DVDs are all over ?18 meaning that they'd be liable for duty(not stoppage). So I guess it would be a problem for them to send it from Holland, mmmmm, I wonder how they could get around that problem???

Yeah JP, but what you have to bear in mind is that those 4 and 5 hour DVD?s are bargain bucket stuff. They?re almost always made up of old material or newish material that a producer might be embarrassed to put his name to. Making up 4 and 5-hour collections is just a marketing ploy to squeeze a few more dollars out of tired, naff or old material that will have been offered a number of times before in different program formats. These collections are specifically targeted at those who are 'careful' with their coin. The selling point is the amount of material, not it's quality.

But when it comes to brand new or quality material someone?s got to pay for it. Almost any type of film production is very expensive which is why you have to pay a premium for new or quality branded stuff. And in the case of Five Star, it's an American outfit that doesn?t have to suffer European business taxes, and also, they have many more potential (mostly American) punters amenable to purchase from them, so the old economies of scale can come into play.

I've seen the Five Star site and although there is stuff on there that I'd buy, I was very aware that the site was skewed towards cheapo brands and 'value for money' collections. If you think they are cheap ask 'em to supply you with Private's latest mega, super, collector?s edition double DVD set (whatever that might be at this moment) for a fiver. I doubt whether it would turn out to be 'as cheap as chips.'


Officer Dibble

So Dibble

Vivid, Caballero, Pleasure Productions and Wicked are cheapo brands, I think not. Your remarks are another typical example of someone within the UK porn industry who thinks they know more than the ordinary punter. So what if the material in 4/5 hr DVD is compilation material, as long as it's material I've not seen then that's all I'm worried about. Let's face it Dibble there are more people in my street have heard of 'Vivid' etc than they have of your company, so face it, your products cheap in terms of production costs and overpriced in terms of cost to the consumer.

Who the bloody hell cares about european tax costs, we are in a world wide global market, wake up man, the consumer will buy where it is cheapest, be that the UK, European Union, Asia or the States.

"Private" who the bloody hell wants to buy 'Private', they are to porn production what 'Neighbours' is to Tv Drama.

JP

JP wrote:

> Always makes laugh to see British/European companies
> advertising on this site that their DVD's are now at the "all
> time low price" of ?20 each for their products.
>
> Jesus, I've just purchased four 4hr Vivid DVDs from Fivestar
> for ?21 including P&P, I also did the same last month.

Plenty of bargains everywhere if your prepared to look
but hardly what you'd call great porn-each to his own

>
> The question must be asked, why do punters on this site
> continue to pay such inflated prices for products that are a
> quarter of the price in the U.S.

because they can't get specific BRITISH products anywhere else
and so are happy to pay a little bit more
>
> I appreciate that some of the bigger sites such as Fivestar
> don't stock much Brit material but there are companies out
> there who do, so shop around.

There you go...don't stock much British content...maybe thats why punters are still buying from the sponsors and then again maybe their just happy to buy PAL vids/dvds to support this site

Its not a charity but a business

I'd imagine that BGAFD through its reviews and cast listings has helped quite a few punters to buy what they were really after

Certainly beats choosing Vids/DVDs by the cover and back


>
> JP

I think you will find a difference in price between Vivid 4-hour compilations and Vivid features. Caballero DVDs are indeed cheap - though I think again there's a difference between releases of classic material and new stuff. Having bought several of their Classic DVDs, they are not very well authored - the sound on Burning Snow is pretty poor, there is pixellisation in parts of Sensations, and in all of them the timer starts again at the beginning of each chapter, where the picture sometimes freezes.

These are just points of information. I am not taking sides in this argument. I would hate to be misrepresented by Dibble - again.

Not being funny, but, the reason why they are so cheap IS because they are from VIVID!!!!.

Storyline = CRAP

Content = CRAP

Format = CRAP

Actors and Actresses = CRAP.

Bring back Swedish Erotica and the 70's?


NOBBY

I don't want to take sides here but I have to agree with JP. I notice Ben Dover DVDs on yourchoice are ?26.50 each. The site where I shop I can get 4 for that. And, Ben Dover's can hardly be described as cheapos can they?

Well, being on the 'inside' JP I don't think it unreasonable to suggested that us insiders might know a little more about the subject than Joe Public. And if you dig the material that you are purchasing then fine, everyone's sorted. I was just trying to explain the reasons why that stuff is cheap and possibly why other stuff is not.

Regarding our movies, yes they are cheap to produce in comparison with many other forms of program production. But they can still cost a few grand to put together. Whether they are overpriced in terms of cost to the consumer, well, the consumers who buy then don't seem to think so, and it is they, in effect, who set the price. By paying the price they are saying "Yeah, sounds about right, send us a couple." There is certainly no intention to 'rip-off' anyone, we just charge enough to fund the cost of the movies we make, fund the running of the biz, printing an expensive, high quality, catalogue and hopefully get a reasonable wage out of it at the end. What we charge is what it costs us to do all that, it's the customers choice wether they find our terms acceptable. If they don't they'll stop buying and we'll have to go and do something else.

But strange as it may seem everyone does not buy on the basis of cost. There are quite often many more considerations that come into play when someone is making a purchase from a retailer. Prestige, service, being able to get stuff that is not available elsewhere, and just plain feeling comfortable with someone you have been doing business with for a while. In fact being 'cheap' can have a very negative effect on sales figures, simply because people perceive cheap as being 'naff' 'low quality' and for those who are skint. Consciously or unconsciously many people do not want to be associated with those negative images. I agree that the consumers do not care about the different tax regimes in other parts of the world or why a product might cost more in one part of the world as opposed to another. What they do care about is the product they are buying and the trading relationship and retail experience they get from the company who is supplying them.

I'll try not to take Alec out of context and use him to bolster my argument this time. Suffice to say he is always the voice of reason and objectivity, and is simply pointing out that he has experience of these cheaper products and that there could be something in the suggestion that they are not the best quality programs available.

With regards to cockers point about 'Your Choice' Well, I guess they charge what the have to charge to fund their business and get a reasonable return. The folks who buy from Your Choice obviously do not buy on the basis of cost, they buy because they like the Your Choice experience. And on the contrary, Ben Dover's movies can most definitely be described as cheapo's because, as I'm sure Ben would admit, it only costs a few grand to get three or four cheap models and a couple of studs together in someone's borrowed gaff and use maybe three or four of DV tapes. Your confusing image and hype with content and substance.


Officer Dibble.

"Bring back Swedish Erotica and the 70's?"

Best suggestion I've heard all week Nobby.


Officer D