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In the battle of pure logic v the VRA it looks like pure logic might get a knockout in round 2 (well hopefully anyway).

Does anyone know when the appeal is likely to be heard?

Greg & Gary are old mates and colleagues of mine and have informed me of this latest pathetic "big brother" rubbish that they are having to deal with to bring you guys & girls your supply. If you are able get behind them and surport them with this fight. It's your freedom they are fighting for.

Don't your prosecutors and judges have anything better to do?

There is to be no appeal as it would be futile and very damaging financially to the parties already prosecuted. However another approach is being looked at for mail order. Can't add more than that at this time.

What a bunch of arse the whole R18 thing has become.

You would think that prosecutors/courts would have 101 more important things to worry about than what consenting adults are watching in the privacy of their own homes.

Meanwhile, here in America, I can wander into the Virgin Megastore on Michigan Avenue, Chicago, browse their adult section and walk out with as much hardcore porn as I like.

Yes Ian, but have you paid for it?

Sadly the situation in the UK is substantially different than in Holland. R18's were a huge step forward, but, in my opinion, there has always been a situation where people determine enough, could use a back door method to prosecute their distribution, if not their content.

Don't they have anything better to do?

I'm sure they have plenty worse to do - look at the number of these right honourable gentlemen that frequent brothels or even worse, are implicated in kiddie porn.

Unfortunately keeping the healthy expression of sexuality underground creates the best conditions for the less savoury aspects to flourish (just as prohibition enabled gangters to make a killing out of booze) and there are plenty of hyprocrites in positions of power that have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo for that reason.

There is an ongoing appeal, Pabo will be going all the way to high court, spoke breifly to my legal people and from the sounds of it they stand a good chance of overturning the ruling, It all comes down to the sales method...The important issue is the offer of sale, our understanding and the stated law is "an offer of sale is not concidered in law to be a contract".
To get that simple if you put a rolex in your window at ?50 you do not need to sell it for that. TS could get shitty with you as if they prove you are doing the advertising as a marketing ploy they could prosecute you for a trading offence but only if you continually did it. Simply because in law "an offer of sale is not a contract".
More examples of how grey a grey area is.

Phil McC