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British porn getting redundant
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2001 4:46 am
by Charlie
after looking at the site updates today the feeling that I get is that British based porn is redundant because the performers aren't the stuff that fantasies are made of! Maybe because only about 30-40% are beautiful the other 60-70% you wouldn't notice on the street. hhhmmmmm think about it
Re: British porn getting redundant
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2001 5:17 am
by Marino
I have to beg to differ with you on that one, I have recently shot movies and have been blessed with some really lovely girls.
I do not always look for a pamela anderson looker, I much prefer the girl to be into sex, as this is what we are producing.
I had the pleasure of being in Jenna Jmmeson,s first ever b/g scene, and yes what a beauty she was. But after a few years at it, I would pick a british girl over this look any day.
I have not found any girls in the world that like to get down and dirty like the english girls.
As long as I have a breath in my body, I hope to keep british porn far from being redundant.
Don't give up on us yet.
Re: British porn getting redundant
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2001 5:56 am
by charlie
Again, that's another Charlie - I agree with Marino!
Charlie
Re: British porn getting redundant
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2001 6:06 am
by Klute
I agree, I think the best looking girls tend to be in East European porn, but British girls do it for fun and have a genuine, down-to-earth appeal. Genuinely beautiful English girls don't tend to do porn - but it doesn't really matter at all to me. It's the fact that the girls love it.
And British porn is hardly redundant. More of it's getting made than ever.
My only real complaint with British porn is that it isn't dirty enough. Sure, the girls are well into it, much more than these inflated American whores, but there's a shortage of genuinely extreme sex acts. DP is preciously rare in British porn and anal still isn't standard - too many cute Brit girls have passed through the industry filming only a few tame b/g vaginal scenes. Many Brit girls even avoid the facial! It's frustrating to find a beautiful girl you really fancy, then find her scenes are all quite tame. Come on girls, it's obvious you enjoy sex on film, so take it up the arse a bit more regularly!!! And nobody's made a British Bukkake yet.
Re: British porn getting redundant
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2001 7:28 am
by Marino
I have tried to bring out the best performance in the girls I work with, sometimes it s not always possible to get d/p and a, often the girls may have done a couple of anal scenes previous to getting on set, so they are occasionally sore or in pain, for me I would rather conside these positions, to see a girl relaxed and happy on set. They are only human, some days they have to take a real battering.
As for dirty stuff, all of my films have anal d/p pissing fisting etc, some of the girls go crazy, In RT2 the girls have a competion with beer bottles. all of their own doing.
I really can't wait to get these films out.
At the end of the day the girls welfare is the most important, often the girls in Europe are working under different conditions,
this kind of porn I do not want to be a part of. Sure it makes the producer look great but there is a tale of sadness behind the reason some of the eastern european girls have to work under.
Ans do not forget that every Ben Dover release tops the U.S. charts, so the Brit girls must have something.
This is probably why the yanks are making to the U.K. to try to snatch our chicks. OVER MY DEAD COLD BODY.
Re: British porn getting redundant
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2001 7:40 am
by Klute
No, I'm with you all the way on that one. Eastern European porn sucks, it's run entirely by pimps and gangsters and the girls are mistreated. My concern was more that DP and anal are rare in Brit films compared to American films - but if you're telling me that this is because the girl's welfare is respected more over here, then I would never argue with you there. The sexiest scene I've ever watched was the DP on "Melinda" in Private superfuckers 5, but watching it now I wonder whether she was treated with any respect at all.
A friend in the industry once said that the reason fewer Brit girls do DP and stuff because they are generally just enthusiastic girls, not really "professional" porn stars, who may only do four or five films for commercial release. It's not their living, it's more a paid hobby, therefore they're only prepared to do the stuff they actually enjoy, rather than take "a real battering" day in day out. US girls on the other hand take whatever's thrown at them because it's their livelihood. Fair enough. If that makes British porn more genuine and less exploitaive then I wouldn't change it for anything. There are some girls who seem to enjoy getting banged into oblivion - Cathy [2] is an example, though she only did about three scenes ever - and their rareness makes them all the better.
Which girls feature in your upcoming releases?
Re: British porn getting redundant
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2001 8:14 am
by Charlie
I agree but I also feel the production value in the UK is behind the times and most film are gonzo style. The girls can be lovely but maybe I'm just used to better production.
Re: British porn getting redundant
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2001 8:35 am
by Klute
The american Bukakke series have no production values whatsoever but theyre the sexiest things around.
Re: British porn getting redundant
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2001 10:46 am
by Marino
To Klute
I am happy to send you some 3 minute cd rom promos of RT 1 - 3
If you can e mail me your address I will let you have a sneak preview, I truly believe that at last you will have all you need in a porn film, they are a little diffrernt, but as the generation of porn fans move on so must porn. I am afraid I can not send the full films as I must protect my product until it is released.
It would be nice if the girls were a little more proffessional, but sometimes it is how they are treated by the producers usually defines how long they stay in the business.
Often you will come across a girl with star potential, and they get a new boyfriend out of the industry who can not handle the fact his girlfriend gets fucked by many men, and so the search continues.
Re: British porn getting redundant
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2001 11:18 am
by Karol
Being relatively new to the forum, would you mind telling me what RT is an acronym for.
I've seen your work with Steve Perry/Ben Dover, and to be perfectly honest, I did prefer the scenes with the girls and you rather than Pascal white, with whom he seems to do a lot of work with these days. I got the impression that you treated the girls with a lot more respect, considering what is required of them.
Having read your comments about how the girls from E Europe, US and Britain are treated, reminds me of the girl in Ben Dover's "This End Up" who found it extremely painful for even a finger anal insertion and was very apologetic that she wasn't able or prepared to do anal, and Ben simply told her not to worry she didn't have to do it.
I sometimes find it a little unsettling about the rough pounding some of the ladies go through, which they obviously don't enjoy and are simply doing it for the cash, yet others seem to go ballistic the more intense the sex gets. I refuse to watch anything that appears as if the lady in question is forced to go through something she is obviously finding painful/degrading/upsetting. Hence my aversion to majority of the Rocco series.
On a side note; will any of your shows that you shot for TVX ever be releases as "hard" versions, and do you have any plans for releasing any of your films on the DVD format. I'd started to hate those awkward cassette things now due to the bulky nature of the things, and discs look so much tidier on the shelf...."Mandy Mountjoy Does Hardcore" nicely slotted between "Man With the Golden Gun" and "Manhunter"

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