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Real Names / Identities

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:44 am
by Willie D
OK, I just saw a response to a thread that listed someone's "real" name instead of their "porn alias," I'll omit the details. How often does this type of crap erupt in the UK? Recently in the U.S., a huge issue has erupted with revealing performer names and other data. Red Light District (distributor of the Paris Hilton home sex tape) seems to have allowed driver 's licenses, passport copies, credit card numbers, and other personal data onto the internet via either a very angry employee or an very good internet hacker. I find this kind of junk reprehensible. DanG, you know where I stand on this.

Luke Ford seems to have taken up this odd mantra that any news is good news, and he has no compunction about once again publishing names and other demographic information about current and former stars. I'm acutely interested in a UK response to this, because your sphere is smaller, and therefore a leak of sensitive information could be even more crippling to someone.

Re: Real Names / Identities

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:23 am
by Kelly Steele
Although in bad taste....
It happens from time to time in the US.
I can't comment on the UK.

In 99.9% of the model releases there is no clause saying a certain name must or must not be used.

And as for Luke Ford....
I've known the man for several years and I know him very well.
All news is news if it is put into context. He will publish as it relates to the story.

But on that note...
This is PORN! A career field that is NOT for wimps.
If you want to make serious money in this field you have to take the gloves off and be prepared to get a bloody nose from time to time.

The nature of porn is porn is supposed to be offensive because otherwise it's NOT porn. Porn is neither art nor a sex film. Hollywood makes much better and hotter sex films than we do and any French man with a brush can make better art.

When you have an industry based on being creating material that is going to offend people. Do you really think it's going to be gentle? Not slap you around from time to time? Not publish real names every so often?

Trust me the current hits on Redlight's site make me say there is at least 33% chance it was intentional. Although no one will admit to it.

I welcome you to check out http://www.ogrish.com/ for an example of non-sex pornography.

For every sex film(porn erotica) that earns a profit of $.01 an offensive one earns $100. And I'm not exagerating.

I don't like to slap girls around so I do it with controversy. Still if I wanted to be disgustingly wealthy I would have a girl fucked in the ass as some man beats her over the head with a baseball bat. I just don't have the stomache to do that.


Re: Real Names / Identities

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:16 am
by Jonone
'Any news is good news' is for people with no responsibility and no morals.

Re: Real Names / Identities

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:43 am
by Jacques
Kelly Steele wrote:

> I welcome you to check out http://www.ogrish.com/ for an
> example of non-sex pornography.

Let's have a look at ogrish then:


Latest:

Image - Man Shoots Himself In India - [04/26/06]
Video - Seven Engineers Killed in Basra - [04/26/06]
Text - Woman in Wheelchair Dies From Police Taser - [04/25/06]
Video - Zarqawi Appears in New Video - [04/25/06]
Image - 8 year old boy drowns after botched suicide attempt - [04/25/06]
Image - Fly Infested Body Found In India - [04/25/06]
Text - Body Parts Found on California Freeway - [04/25/06]
Text - 12-Year-Old Charged in Double Murder - [04/25/06]
Image - Firearm suicide, India - [04/24/06]
Video - Two Killed in Bombing Near Tikrit - [04/24/06]
Video - IED on Iraqi Police by the Army of Ansar Al-Sunnah - [04/24/06]
Text - Brothers Stabbed to Death by Gang in London - [04/24/06]
Image - Quad Bike Accident - [04/23/06]
Audio - Bin Laden Claims West is Waging War on Islam - [04/23/06]
Image - 2 Sewer workers die in India. - [04/23/06]
Image - Shot In The Abdomen In Brazil - [04/23/06]
Audio - OGRISH PODCAST - [04/23/06]
Video - Mahdi Army Member Executed in Iraq - [04/22/06]
Image - Horse Dissection - [04/22/06]
Text - Kenneth Bigley's remains may be buried near Fallujah - [04/22/06]
Video - Insurgents Attack Humvee with IED Inside Dog - [04/22/06]
Text - Oregon Man Survives 12 Nails to the Head - [04/22/06]
Video - Texas Officer Beaten by Escaped Convict - [04/22/06]
Image - Cops Killed By Natives In Brazil - [04/21/06]
Text - Mexican Federales Beheaded - [04/21/06]
Video - Islamic Army in Iraq Attacks US Bradley with IED - [04/21/06]
Text - Priest Dismembers Lover On Easter Sunday - [04/20/06]
Image - Autopsy of criminal shot by police - [04/20/06]
Video - Casino Worker Brutally Beaten - [04/20/06]
Image - Two Men Kill Each Other In Brazil - [04/20/06]
Text - Four Dead After Shooting Spree - [04/19/06]
Image - Indian Woman Comits Suicide By Fire - [04/19/06]
Video and Image - Political activist assassinated in Pakistan *Updated Video* - [04/19/06]
Image - Drug Dealer Found Dead In River In Brazil - [04/19/06]
Text - A Bloody Monday in Iraq - [04/18/06]

Perhaps pornography means something else on the other side of the pond?


Re: Real Names / Identities

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:02 am
by DanG
Willie, it's a much smaller industry over here, so everyone pretty much knows everyone etc.

The RLD example is a bad one because I believe it's an inside job, but if anyone over here were to be found playing fast and loose with performers' details, they would be blacklisted in a shot, and given the limited size of our industry compared to LA, word travels a lot quicker.

Of course, our laws on personal info are a little different to the US too, hence the confusion about how to comply with 2257 whilst respecting (and remaining within) our own domestic laws on privacy as well.

Now, why did you have to bring that evil masturbating banana smiley over from XPT with you?

Re: Real Names / Identities

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:11 am
by Kelly Steele
Jacques wrote:

> Kelly Steele wrote:
>
> > I welcome you to check out http://www.ogrish.com/ for an
> > example of non-sex pornography.
>
> Let's have a look at ogrish then:
>
> Perhaps pornography means something else on the other side of
> the pond?
>
>

It means exactly the same thing on both sides of the atlantic
In a nutshell...

Porn is about Offensiveness!
Porn is about Shock!
Porn is about Controversy!
Porn is about Free speech!
Porn is about Money!

It is about taking something that isn't culturally or socially acceptable and making it public as a means to exercise your right to say what you want and make a profit from it.

The moment Porn becomes socially acceptable it stops being porn.

British porn industry it has enjoyed what...
5-10 years of being legal?

Give it another 10 to 20 years and you will start to see such titles with names like "Jack the Arsehole Ripper" or "The Gapes of London Tower" or perhaps "London Bridge Donkey Punch!"


Re: Real Names / Identities

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:17 am
by Jonone
First and foremost it's about money. I don't think many people go into it with a subversive agenda ... I may be wrong. There is more than one way to skin a cat however, and you can be all of those things (you can tick off that checklist) without resorting to the 'donkey punch'. All it takes is a little imagination.

Re: Real Names / Identities

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:31 am
by Kelly Steele
Of course it always about money and Freedom of Speech/expression.
And no one says you have to apply each and every single element of the above to each film.

But on that note, you do require a large enough puritan element of a society in order for this product to have any financial value or merrit.

If it becomes completely socially acceptable, then that crucial piece of the puzzle disappears. And without that, porn is just a really bad video no one wants to spend money on.


Re: Real Names / Identities

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:32 am
by Cenobitez
Nah Jacques,

I watched the BANNED in the UK thing on channel 4 and they went into Snuff and stuff like that, and its classed as porn here too, shock films, and exections and stuff all get classed as pornography.

Its changed from Sexual Nature to include Snuff, Murder Films, and all that stuff now.


Re: Real Names / Identities

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:35 am
by Jacques
Oh I see........me and my Victorian attitude.