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Are any of Ben's early pick-ups thought to be possibly genuine? There are a few where the girls are never seen before or after, and the pickup is very convincing - eg Penny in Puttin on the brits. Any thoughts??

Also does anyone know of any other vids from any other producer that feature GENUINE pickups or persuasions?

The German Strassenflirts series uses the same premise, i.e. bloke chats up girl in street & convinces her to take all her clothes off back at his place in front of a camera before shagging them. A couple of the vids I've got of this series do seem to have genuine attempts to pick up girls, but the bloke usually gets told to go somewhere else in German! As for the ones who do fall for whatever cheesy chat-up line is being used, I have my doubts as to whether they are genuine...

An article in a Galaxy mag some years ago on this subject, said that the only supposed genuine vids of this sort were the Excuse Me series from Seventeen, The price to buy seems to indicate that they are a bit special.

I saw a couple of these in a catalogue (STB??).
Who sells the full range?

XXX shop in Holland. ?34 each

You don't get full hardcore in every episode - so be careful, sometimes it's a bit of solo stuff on the bed! It's the same German Harry of Max Perv fame and the Harry... episodes in England who's involved in the chatting up!

You mean Harry S. Morgan. The pickups will be staged then.

Of course all the pick ups are contrived. that's part of the illusion. All videos made have to have two forms of i.d and no one in their right mind is going to perform with anyone on a video without an HIV test- unless it is completely amateur like Your Choices Viewers Wives series. With this amount of organisation can a pick up be that genuine. Give Ben his due though, it comes across genuine enough. Sorry to rain on your parade chaps.

Is the Penny you refer to the same as the one in Boogie Nights in Suburbia with Marcus Allen?

If so, then see answer above.

Well yes but what about vids where the girls just strip & masturbate. No need for HIV tests etc. Like that bloke in NYC who had a camera strapped to his back and got genuine passers by to flash the gash for cable tv. Is there anything like that out there?