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I don't WANT to be a member of your 'boys' club. EVER!

I deleted you from my facebook friends because I found it very clear that you obviously are NOT a friend!

Keep your noses out of my business!

Very mature John.

We never had our noses in your business in the first place anyway. You were on our facebook page as this is a passive way of infoming people looking in as to what we are doing.

No one is expecting or forcing you to do anything.

As for your bleating about us being a boys club reflects your childish sensibilities with regards your position in the adult industry.

If we are sorry for anyhting John its that you rtook an open informed message so offensively...Perhaps because you are guilty of paying the girls a low rate and knowingly use the public to fuck girls in our business makes you questionable about the self serving attitudes you accuse us of.

Since you dragged it onto the BGAFD then Im sure you wouldnt have expected less of a reply.

I guess you dont call yourself Johnny Rebel for nothing.

Grow up John!

It's rich you that you ask me to grow up! I just laughed at your facebook post, you were the one who started with the insults!

For a start what I pay models is between me and them. Fuck all to do with you and UKAP. Keep you nose out!

The gangbangs I shoot at the Private Club are FOR the Private Club and NOT for me. Get your facts straight, before you start slinging mud. Again keep you nose out!

For an organization that wants to be taken seriously, you have a funny way of going about it!

I bet you were stewing about that come back all night werent you John? I responded to your tirade about this and tried to be diplomatic as possible but you had to get nasty and personal and to take it on here...Man you are low.

Still since we are going to make a public debacle of it can we keep the point of some members have offered a top up to give models the incentive to join this scheme as the theme behind this conflict.

Surely ?20 on top of their fee is not going to break your bank...Its ok John, you werent expected to do this. We were just informing that SOME members have agreed to do it. You obviously responded to it harshly thinking this was mandatory.

You should have ignored it like some other producers do if it doesnt apply to you BUT you had to make it a big deal and turn this into a "rebel" thing and make this a popularity contest (which this all is isnt it John?)

Lets start with the facts shall we. You posted on facebook about your new scheme. I replied Quote "LMFAO". If you consider that as harsh, you need to grow a thicker skin!
And I don't know how you think it's a popularity contest, because I've not asked anyone to take sides

John wrote: It's rich you that you ask me to grow up! I just laughed at your facebook post

How is asking you why you think it so funny insulting. its when you accuse us of being hat we are not where I saw this was going.


The gangbangs I shoot at the Private Club are FOR the Private Club and NOT for me

Oh yes. Good one John. its always someone elses blame. "I was just the get away driver" "What do I knowe, I just work here"

You are in the industry and by your years in it should act a bit more responsibly but thanks for exposing yourself as a self serving opportunist person that you are John. I dont need to say it.

fair enough, the girls work for whatever rate you set and that is not even central to the point that I said SOME member have agreed to do what they were doing. Somehow you felt threatened that you had to comply because you fell the girls were going to ask you knowing that you are respected by your years in the business that you will be part of it depsite the fact you have and never been a member so how does my comments interefere with what you are doing.

It is you who should butt the fuck out of our business and mind your own and shut up. The real boys club going on is you and all your ilk that openly pay shit rates and work the girls out with your multiple scenes and photoshoots. its no wonder you see a producers association as a threat.

We are not here to police an already out of control business John. UKAP is doing fine with its various members on things that are trying to help us all as well as ourselves but you are so jaded you cant see that.

Cut and pasted from facebook post:

Ukap All Various producers offering a top up on fees for all models using the new certs online scheme with clinic express/regents park. Whose in?

Johnny Rebel lmfao!

Valentino Angelo LOL i allways use.. regent !!

Ukap All Why John? Whats so funny? You dont agree with us using this as an incentive for models to use the scheme? POr do you think its a giant waste of time?

Ukap All You think the system works fine as it is already John? Have you any suggestions? You seem to know more about cert fakers than most of us but yet you prefer to keep this stuff to yourself

Johnny Rebel For a start, I do think the idea of producers PAYING extra, so performers will get on-line certs is a joke!
Is this just another cost we are expected to absorb? In a market place where the price is being forced down all the time?

You already made it clear we are not friends John so lets leave it at that. Anything else is just a distraction.

I've made my point. People can evaluate this for themselves.

How about we leave it at this: UKAP keeps it's nose out of my business and I'll do the same to UKAP! Can we agree about this? Or do you want to continue?