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Exercising the Brain Cells

Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 6:43 am
by Flett
Here's one that could get a few people going.
A soldier returns from the Iraq "war". He has a roll of film developed and it allegedly shows Iraqi P.O.W.s being mistreated - being held in some sort of net between the forks of a forklift truck is one example quoted on the morning news. A number of other photos show P.O.W.s being manhandled. As a consequence, an M.O.D. investigation is being held, and the soliders involved are being interrogated, and will face action if the M.O.D. deems it necessary.
The question - setting aside your views on the legality of the "war" where does the solider stand on the invasion of his privacy? When you take a roll of film to be developed are you not entrusting the privacy of the film's content to the developer on the understanding that the pictures are your private property?
Remember Julia Somerville and her court case, six or maybe seven years ago? She and her husband were arrested because a roll of holiday snaps was deemed to contain "indecent" pictures of her young children, frolicking in the swimming pool. The person making the initial allegation was an employee of the chemist that developed the film. In both cases, it seems that the person behind the counter in a retail shop has been given the right to decide when to call in the"authorities" if the content of private photos is deemed by that person to warrant the action. Nobody knows what the criteria are when this judgement is being made - all that happens is that a bunch of Officer Dibbles arrive and hey presto, you're in the shit, up to your neck.
Frankly, this pisses me off.
Naturally, there will be forumites whose arguments will be along the lines of "we have to protect the innocent,, bla-de-blah-de-blah........."
Let's look beyond that - let's look at the principle.

Re: Exercising the Brain Cells

Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 10:39 am
by mick
Thank God for digital cameras.

Re: Exercising the Brain Cells

Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 11:59 am
by Elton Dong
If a bunch of Officer Dibbles turned up they would be more concerned with the fact that he didnt have any photo's of classic glamour models !
... here look at this Sarge no Karen Partington ! or Rachel Steven's ! book him !! and Steph Bews he needs to sort out a nice lingerie shoot !!!

Be real .... so you think war crimes are ok ? and should be gotten away with
i hope you dont have any Jewish/Congo blood in you .

Re: Exercising the Brain Cells

Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 1:02 pm
by Flett
No, Elton, I don't think war crimes are okay - that's one helluva leap you've made there. And no, I don't have any Jewish/Congo blood in me. Or white Zimbabwean blood for that matter.
If you'd look a little more closely you'd see that the principle of censorship comes into this. So let me make a leap equal to the one you made - so you support censorship at any level?

Re: Exercising the Brain Cells

Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 5:05 pm
by Mart
I don't think censorship is relevant. Surely the issue here is "Privacy" v. "Evidence of possible crime".

Mart

Re: Exercising the Brain Cells

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 7:02 am
by elton dong
I support censorship to the level of Exploitation , If their is photographic evidence of a crime where a persons human rights are compromised the photo should stop being personal property and become evidence to the crime .I do agree with you to a certain degree ,in the case of people prosecuted for smoking dope , some bod in Boot's is developing a film and finds a bong being used then repots it to the police who have and will prosecute people, i think this wrong because a: its a minor crime and b: its self abuse. Or the case of the men (all over 21) who consented to get together in a group to mutilate each others cocks and were prosecuted (i think) for the photographic evidence ! this was wrong i think because everyone involved had given mutual adult consent , Had the poor Iraqi P.O.W.s given concent ummm i dont think so...