Humberside Chief Constable David Westwood - should have resigned many months ago when the trial took place and it became obvious that his force (amongst others) had screwed up big time but now his refusal to resign and the apparent refusal of the Humberside Police Authority to suspend him despite the damning report released yesterday is making this even worse.
Some quotes from the report:
"There were "serious failings" on the part of the management of Humberside police force, which made "potentially significant errors."
"Humberside police had lacked "effective guidance and training", and there was "ignorance" and "confusion" on the creation, reviewing and deleting of records."
"Humberside Police, not the Data Protection Act, was to blame for the fact Huntley's records had been deleted. The Act did not need rewriting, he added."
"Westwood conceded their intelligence system had "failed almost completely" and admitted he had been wrong to blame the Data Protection Act for the vetting process."
How can any police chief even contemplate staying on in light of those sorts of statements? For fuck sakes man fall on your sword and do the decent thing - we all know its only a matter of time before you go one way or the other anyway so do it now while you can still hold your head up a little. In the end Blunkett will get his way by hook or by crook so walk before you are pushed and stop dragging this all on and on for the families involved.
Jason
Why doesnt he just do the decent thing and go?
Re: Why doesnt he just do the decent thing and go?
it certainly makes you think though ,a bloke like huntley getting a job like that in the 1st place.
Re: Why doesnt he just do the decent thing and go?
Here, here. In the name of God, go!
Re: Why doesnt he just do the decent thing and go?
Yes, he should hold his hands up and admit he's shit at his job and go.
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I've met the man on the street............and he's a cunt
I've met the man on the street............and he's a cunt
Re: Why doesnt he just do the decent thing and go?
He cant hold his hand up, he is too busy giving funny handshakes .
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Scape goat
Mr. Westwood is not responsible for those tragic deaths.
Their killer is now serving life.
I suspect that in light of the recent scathing report the Govt. is looking for a scape goat to get the blame for the failings in many departments, which are ultimately controlled from Whiyehall.
Before the Soham tragedy Hunley was not convicted of ANY, nor indeed charged of the sexual allegations made against him. Therefore under English law as it stands, he was an innocent man.
Yes, records should have been made and kept on him. Yes there should have been a effective means of other forces checking on there previous dealing with him. Yes, Social services should have let the police know about their concern about his sexual relations with young girls. Yes, Cambridge police should have contacted Humberside when vetting him. Yes, the school should have made sure they checked references before they gave him the job.
But at this stage he had not been found guilty of any offences relevent to him working in a school. Now here it get very interesting when one considers the Human Right Act ( brought in by Mr Blair and practised by his wife) and other legal precedence. Would it have been lawful to inform the school/education authorities of previous ALLEGATIONS made against him, and what civil claim for damages would he have had when they declined to employ him.
I'm just arguing a point here, as this bastard should have been pinned down long ago, and all relevent parties should have been aware of him.
There have been failings all round in the events surrounding Hunley's appointment, but it is he and he alone who committed murder.
Yes, Mr Westwood may have been incorrect about why his force allowed records to be deleted, and other faults may have been identified in his force. But it was not just his force who made errors. Cambridge too were at fault. As did social services.
It is somewhat stupid for Blunkett to start calling for a chief constable's resignation, for the man in charge of all policing in the country is infact himself.
If he insists on wanting a head to roll, then shouldn't it be his own?
Their killer is now serving life.
I suspect that in light of the recent scathing report the Govt. is looking for a scape goat to get the blame for the failings in many departments, which are ultimately controlled from Whiyehall.
Before the Soham tragedy Hunley was not convicted of ANY, nor indeed charged of the sexual allegations made against him. Therefore under English law as it stands, he was an innocent man.
Yes, records should have been made and kept on him. Yes there should have been a effective means of other forces checking on there previous dealing with him. Yes, Social services should have let the police know about their concern about his sexual relations with young girls. Yes, Cambridge police should have contacted Humberside when vetting him. Yes, the school should have made sure they checked references before they gave him the job.
But at this stage he had not been found guilty of any offences relevent to him working in a school. Now here it get very interesting when one considers the Human Right Act ( brought in by Mr Blair and practised by his wife) and other legal precedence. Would it have been lawful to inform the school/education authorities of previous ALLEGATIONS made against him, and what civil claim for damages would he have had when they declined to employ him.
I'm just arguing a point here, as this bastard should have been pinned down long ago, and all relevent parties should have been aware of him.
There have been failings all round in the events surrounding Hunley's appointment, but it is he and he alone who committed murder.
Yes, Mr Westwood may have been incorrect about why his force allowed records to be deleted, and other faults may have been identified in his force. But it was not just his force who made errors. Cambridge too were at fault. As did social services.
It is somewhat stupid for Blunkett to start calling for a chief constable's resignation, for the man in charge of all policing in the country is infact himself.
If he insists on wanting a head to roll, then shouldn't it be his own?
Re: Scape goat
Sid , The Chief Constables of Cambridge and Humberside should go , they should go promptly they should say sorry and mean it before they do .
Yes , under English law Huntley was an innocent man when he was hired for that job , but the reason he was an innocent man and did the damage he did was institutionalised incompetence in Humberside . It is correct , and very important that he was innocent , for the social good.
How would you like a situation where anyone telling a stroppy kid to stop damaging some school sports equipment will be at the mercy of the little yobs who just have to accuse him (her) of sexual misconduct to ensure he(she) never works again ?
One of the reasons the CC should go promptly is because Blunkett is hiding behind him , you are right that Blunkett should also go , plus a good slice of the inert bureaucracy at the Home Office , whose forfeited pensions should be applied to front line policing that will help nail the scrotes that are still at large .
Yes , under English law Huntley was an innocent man when he was hired for that job , but the reason he was an innocent man and did the damage he did was institutionalised incompetence in Humberside . It is correct , and very important that he was innocent , for the social good.
How would you like a situation where anyone telling a stroppy kid to stop damaging some school sports equipment will be at the mercy of the little yobs who just have to accuse him (her) of sexual misconduct to ensure he(she) never works again ?
One of the reasons the CC should go promptly is because Blunkett is hiding behind him , you are right that Blunkett should also go , plus a good slice of the inert bureaucracy at the Home Office , whose forfeited pensions should be applied to front line policing that will help nail the scrotes that are still at large .
Ride Yamaha , support Rossi !
Re: Scape goat
Both Chief Constables should go but it is incorrect to say that there is a lack of money in the police. There isn't. There is a lack of sensible application of the available money.
In 1901 there were 35million people in this country and 42,000 coppers. Now there are about 60million people and 124,000 police PLUS all the specials, civilian workers, not to mention the community officers. There are more than enough police and more than enough money. What on earth are they all doing? They are badly deployed.
Too many of them are on courses for "community issues" and too many are off sick.
Get them out of their pandas and back on the beat and instigate a policy of zero tolerance for all crimes. Stuff the human rights act!
In 1901 there were 35million people in this country and 42,000 coppers. Now there are about 60million people and 124,000 police PLUS all the specials, civilian workers, not to mention the community officers. There are more than enough police and more than enough money. What on earth are they all doing? They are badly deployed.
Too many of them are on courses for "community issues" and too many are off sick.
Get them out of their pandas and back on the beat and instigate a policy of zero tolerance for all crimes. Stuff the human rights act!
Re: Scape goat
You say we have 42,000 police, does'nt New York have that number alone to police that Metropolis?
Re: Scape goat
No, I said there were 42,000 in 1901...now there are more than 120,000. Three times as many for less than double the population....and they still can't get their act together.