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A Model is a Model is a................
It's all down to personal preference. There are Models to fit all genres from 18yo nymphs to 65yo Grannies. Whatever the genre/fetish there are models for it. You shoot the Models to fit your commisions/tastes. It's purely booking horses for courses.
As for, "Models not caring as long as the payment is made" Models only work to the levels they're personally happy with. A Model is in business, it's her job & as such she expects to be paid for her talents on offer, whatever they may be!
The adult industry maket place is constantly changing & it's appetite for "New Talent" is relentless, hence who can blame the girls for making the most of their "15 minutes of fame".
But beware, any snapper taking liberties, soon finds out what a small insular world the adult business is......the grapevine is speedy & effective.

As far as I can see 90% of those 'listed' have never been ?models? ? unless, of course, your definition of a model is someone off the street who, for a few easy quid, will go to a council flat and allow herself to be shagged by 2-3 chortling geezers. But to my mind ?being a model? implies a trade or a craft ? like a bricklayer or plumber. But many of those listed wouldn?t have a clue about clothes; makeup, deportment, male desire and feminine allure, never mind how to strike a pose.

When I first started shooting proper models in the early 90?s they would turn up with bags of exotic outfits and lingerie, with makeup cases that would not disgrace a TV studio - and they would know how to use them. I was always amazed at how they could transform themselves from, say, a super glamorous nightclub hostess, to an (equally sexy) naughty nurse. It would be like having two different girls there. They would take notes in little diaries on what outfits and makeup they had used, in case they were asked back at a later date to reprise that role. They were capable, professional and conscientious, they knew what they were doing and took pride in their art. Now, as I was discussing with Remington the other day, you get ?models? turning up late (if you?re lucky) wearing some crappy jeans that it appears they have slept in, baring Tesco carrier bags containing the tools of their trade ? a pair of grey nylon knickers from Happy Shopper, or something equally alluring and complaining that they can't stay too long as their boyfriend is waiting outside and they have to pick their Giro up. Hey, the only centre spread they?ll ever be offered is in ?Sleazy Chav Weekly?.

If you want to checkout who?s considered a proper British model nowadays you have to look through the lens of Andrew Blake, Danni Ashe, American Playboy, Mike Ninn and the like. They are the real arbiters of modelling credibility, it is they who adhere to the ?gold standard? but, sadly, it seems that apart from Adele Stephens and Kellemarie (have I left anyone out?) they don?t, nowadays, perceive much in the way of British modelling credibility, at all.


Officer Dibble


P.S. I picked up a copy of The Daily Star the other day and clocked one of Diddy Dave?s ads, offering Videos ?n? DVD?s. But the thing that stopped me in my tracks was the fact that the videos he was proffering were of early 90?s models ? Teresa, Louise, Charmeine, etc. So why was he still invoking those names to sell product? After all this time hadn?t they been supplanted by any new ?models? of equal, or greater bankability and allure? Diddy Dave?s no fool, and so it would seem not (this tallies with my own retail experiences).

A very true & valid post Occifer.
I can't help wonder why things have slipped so far............could it be the willingness of both sides (models/producers) to accept that cheap & quick, churn it out is best? After all it keeps the cash trickling in doesn't it?
Of course the DV Cam & Home PC's have a lot to answer for, anyone can make porn, can't they?
Where are the established "Stars"?.........Gone forever I suspect, from an industry seemingly obsessed with rapid turnover of dubious content, starring a zoom mad DV Cam, a cast of 2-4 dead eyed, disinterested bodies shagging to order, in motel/travelodge rooms, to non existant storylines/scripts.
The cast/talent are then paid their few quid & disgarded to enable the next bunch of wannabees to have their chance.....Who's Next?
Is this the way to create a true "Star?" Of course not. That's why the few UK girls with good looks, sense & talent all up sticks & bugger off to the US studios to seek their just rewards.
The answer is obvious.
Pick your talent carefully, stick with them! Get good scripts/storylines, decent studio facilities, proper sound & lighting, decent costume/hair/makeup & an editor who isn't blind or drunk.
But it will take a very brave man with amazingly deep pockets & the patience of Job!
Any takers?................................

There can only be one definition of a "model"... surely a "model" is anyone, male or female, willing to pose for an artist or photographer. What they (the model) look like and the manner of the poses is irrelevant.

If your question was "what makes a good model?" or "what is your favoured look in a model?" or "what do you find sexy in a model", or "can someone unreliable class themselves as a model?" then I fear you have failed to ask your question correctly.

Maybe next time you could give us your answer and we could guess what the original question was?

"There can only be one definition of a "model"... surely a "model" is anyone, male or female, willing to pose for an artist or photographer."

Technically correct Bob, but I believe photo-taker's intention was to garner opinion, and maybe start a debate, on what the concept of an adult model meant to those present. The fact is that the term 'model' will mean something slightly different to each of us - it?s the image that immediately flashes on in our minds when we read or hear the word 'model' - be that an image of Claudia Schiffer, Teresa May, or Cheryl Chav. He was just asking our opinion, our take, on how we saw a 'model' or what we believed an adult model should be.

Officer Dibble

Some perceptive observations there Cerberus. Yeah, I would agree that the new ?DV boys? are partially responsible for the diminution of standards (though not exclusively). It was they who originally lowered the bar. But to be fair, at the time, we all saw it as legitimate. The nice girl next door was (sexually at least) as desirable as a raving glamourpuss. But then, while our attention was distracted with making a crust, came the age of the chav bird. Suddenly, the girl next door was not so nice, she was lairy, uncouthed, foul mouthed, with scant regard for her appearance or how she was perceived by the opposite sex. Of course this was the point where the DV men should have stopped shooting, but they didn?t. They carried on, either ?cause they needed the wage, or more likely, simply that they were carried away with their new career and could not see a problem.

That?s partly the reason adult entertainment is where it is today, but of greater significance are the wider social, cultural and technological changes that have affected our medium. The DV boys did not create the chav bird; they merely allowed her on their set. The blame for the sorry state of British society (and British porn) must lay with a noxious cocktail of the increasingly vacuous ?celebrity? tabloid culture and PC permissiveness ? tabloid culture for encouraging everyone to be morons, only concerned with mindless celebrity gossip, and middleclass public sector sorts actively encouraging women to be assertive, feisty (lairy), empowered, less like, er, women, and more like chaps.


Officer Dibble

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That's my definition of a model!

" Is it fair that anything goes as long as it sells."
Where does "fair" come into it? If you don't like it who says you've got to buy it?
I don't understand what the bitching is about except to have another go at chavs.

Mart