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Doctor Who backlash
Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 10:12 pm
by Pervert
I'm surprised at the Daily Mail's restraint so far, but how long can it last? Saturday's episode had a gymslip mum, the Doctor advocating the welfare state, and the arrival in the Tardis of an obvious switch-hitter. Anyone with liberal leanings will have no problems with any of that, but when will the rabid right notice and take offence?
Re: Doctor Who backlash
Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 7:38 am
by Deuce Bigolo
But that would tell their audience that their watching the show which wouldn't do their image any good at all
The first Episode which aired in OZ 2 weeks ago left me so numb I forgot to tune in for number 2 and caught it 15 minutes in...special effects papering over the cracks of some truly uninspiring paper thin plots IMHO
George Lucas isn't ghost writing is he?
Wouldn't surprise me if Ecclestone was actually asked to vacate the role and not the other way around.
Each to his own
cheers
B....OZ
Re: Doctor Who backlash
Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 9:57 am
by Ned
Which ones have you seen? It's been a mixed series really. All the episodes written by Russell T Davies have been crap and the rest have been pretty good, I think.
The Good
The Unquiet Dead - The one with Dickens in it
Dalek - Guess what's in that?

Father's Day - Even if it's got a crap plot, the acting is fine.
The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances - World War 2 horror storyish.
The Bad
Rose
The End of the World - Blue aliens and crap plot, but a nice scene about the end of everything which ends in going off for chips.
Aliens of London/World War Three - Farting aliens and a crappier plot than it sounds.
The Long Game - Plot, script, acting all shit.
Re: Doctor Who backlash
Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 10:44 am
by Pervert
Bad news---farting alien returning next week.
Given the amount of social commentary in some of the scripts, the stories may become dated rather soon. On the plus side, the non-regulars are given decent characters and backgrounds. Best ones so far have been the second world war two-parter, The Unquiet Dead, and Father's Day---the last of which looked as though it should have been utter bollocks, but worked brilliantly.
Re: Doctor Who backlash
Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 11:08 am
by Bishop Beesley
If you want thin plots and dodgy acting.....just take a look at the old Dr Who's!
Any show will have some eps better than others...but overall i've absolutey loved this new incarnation. Along with shows like Hustle and Soul Deep it seems the BBC are actually starting to get good again!
And how great is it to see Dr Who ratings piss all over shite like Celebrity Wrestling!
I too had noticed some liberal subtext....but have no problem with that. I suppose the most obvious one was the WOMD piss take in the Slitheen ep...."they can deploy these weapons in thirty seconds!" ...with the Doctor watching on a Tv monitor saying something like..."Nobody's going to believe that, are they?" LOL
Finally, I don't want to come over all xenophobic....but let's face it...foreigners just don't get Dr. Who. When they reviewed the pilot on Newsnight Review, Mark Lawson and the two rather intellectual bloke writers reverted to chilhood and loved it....Bonnie Greer (an American) sat there bewildered by it all, saying..."I just don't get this."
Re: Doctor Who backlash
Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 12:42 pm
by Pervert
It's true that they're not pandering to American tastes, which is for the best.
I wonder if Paramount would like to give Davies and friends a chance to bring some life back to the tired old Star Trek franchise.
Re: Doctor Who backlash
Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 1:21 pm
by gorgeous gee
it strikes me as having the ear mark of camel created by committee in that it appears to have had someone sit down and put forward ideas based on social realism, establishing the rose character as a contemporary person with family,relationships, mobile phone etc.......then someone else in marketing and ratings chipped in that it was too far from the original format and must be liberally peppered with ludicrous blue farting things, and flying daleks.
the net result...neither fish nor fowl, but of course, as someone said, was able to drub celeb wrestling in the ratings...then so could bikini beach.
Re: Doctor Who backlash
Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 4:31 pm
by The Last Word
Liberal subtexts, and the cretinous jokiness, give the impression that clever-clogs RTD always saw the project as slightly beneath him - hence the supposed lesser writers making a much better fist of it.
Oh, and John Harris apart, Newsnight Review wants putting to sleep. Even the once reliable Tom Paulin now comes across as a sad old man who reads American political allegories in his tea leaves.
Yes... but....
Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 6:50 pm
by Ned
Daleks as written by RTD. Have you seen the photos from episode 12? The robot Trinny and Susannah idea? Weebles wobble etc... lol