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Seeing the row brewing in the Tony Banks thread, I wonder if there is a suitable period before a deceased person can be subjected to vitriol. Frankly, I believe it depends on the person. Not too many tears would be shed, or words of condolence expressed, if Saddam Hussein or Radovan Karodjic turned tits up. Are our politicians worse than them?

Thatcher or Blair would probably not be spared a slagging. Cook and Mowlem mostly were, so why is Mr Banks in for such a hard time?

Apropos of nothing much, what was with that crowd outside the Big Brother house when the alleged celebs arrived? Booing Galloway I can understand, but Faria Alam? Does being a slapper constitute the hate treatment when a much more dodgy character, to wit one Michael Barrymore Esq, was cheered in?

I never met Tony Banks.From what i saw of him over the years he seemed like a harmless enough bloke though. I just don't understand why anyone would cheer and celebrate on here because the guy has died. Ok,you don't like his politics fair enough don't vote for his party.

Taking it to the other extreme if either of these sick bastards who raped that 12 week old kid on the news tonight happened to die tommorrow id probably raise a glass in celebration.

You wouldn't be alone in that. They are not going to enjoy their first few months of prison life, that's for sure.

I know how you feel Caractacus. This forum has become a spleen-fest for some folk to air their right-wing prej....oops I mean views.

Mart

I just smile to myself a lot now when I read some of the posts and dispair at the way our race is going.

I used to be able to have a good banter with people on here with our differing ideals, now I find I get called a communist or a tree hugger (i'm neither) because I don't want to ban flights from Turkey because of bird flu etc etc

maybe things will swing back one day

But what would follow the banning of flights? Machine-gunning any migratory birds as soon as they appeared in our skies?

I'm fairly intolerant of many things, but I'd like to think I can see reason occasionally and agree to disagree with people on some topics without it becoming a slanging match.

Our feelings and thinking on subjects may be black and white, but the world isn't---just different shades of grey. Understanding that someone else's upbringing and experience gives them a different perspective to mine is a start. Any whose mind is so inflexible that they cannot concede they might be wrong . . . . well, it's dangerous, and that kind of thinking can be manipulated.

. Any whose mind is so inflexible that they cannot concede they might be wrong . . . . well, it's dangerous, and that kind of thinking can be manipulated.

that is very true, it's why I have a pretty much open mind to most things, maybe it comes from being a scientist, there are very few things I have worked with that thoughts havn't changed on over the years as we have looked/researched and studied into various areas

a closed mind is a poor mind IMO

Hmm, I was planning to address this issue in a separate thread at some point. The issue being the ugly ?dancing on graves? of more than a few forumites when someone they seem to dislike departs this vale of tears. I'm afraid I find this horrible, repulsive and disquieting. I don't think I would rejoice over anyone?s' death, no matter how vile and detestable they were - and I?m taking about Ian Huntley type vile, not just someone who held different political views. If Huntley was found dead tomorrow I certainly wouldn't shed any tears, instead I would find it a time for quite reflection on the meaning of life, death, fate, and the human condition. I'm not in the least bit religious, but if there's anything in this world that has the slightest spiritual significance, then I feel it must be death, and I grew up at a time when people still had respect for the dead.

I recall a while a go when Richard Whitley died. A harmless genial chap by all accounts, a man whose worst crime was that he might have been a bit naff and cheesy. But I was startled, shocked, and horrified by the bizarre outpouring of bile against him. Forumites, for no discernable reason, were rejoicing at his demise, even some who I take half seriously. Jeez, it was a bad show. I found it very disquieting. Don't get me wrong, some people are so scummy they deserve to die and I don't mind if some public-spirited person takes it upon himself or herself to do the honours and kill them. It's the singing and dancing about it that troubles me.

Regarding ?Big Brother?. I know I always slag it, but I found myself watching it the other day. It soon became clear to me that the ?housemates? had divided up into two different camps ? those with brains i.e., George Galloway and the loud transvestite type, and in the opposite camp ? Jodie 'Superchav' Marsh and her side kick the Paris Hilton look-alike. George was voicing his disapproval of the lairy, slaggy, pair, their obnoxious language, ignorance, and coarse chavy ways. I found myself in total agreement, and although George is a tricky fucker who pays lip service to socialism, I found him and his clique to be the most interesting and appealing personalities in there. Whatever George may be he is also charming, intelligent, cultured and hugely charismatic. Call me perverse but I value those qualities far more highly than the ignorant, foul mouthed, Essex slagginess of Jodie and her pal.


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