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Re: 911 - was it self inflicted?
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:12 pm
by Fred
Here we go again: no plane hit the Pentagon, it was all faked etc etc. Watch it by all means but retain your scepticism not only for the "official version" but also anything like this purporting to be the "truth".
Treat the following link(s) with caution too!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loose_Change_(video)
Re: 911 - was it self inflicted?
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:46 pm
by Bob Singleton
I remember watching all the various newscasts at the time thinking there wasn't much wreckage left and not much of a hole at either the Pentagon or the field where flight 77 was meant to have crashed. Even back then I felt something didn't quite add up.
A friend who is a metallurgist told me shortly after 9/11 that it was not possible for the Twin Towers to collapse the way they did purely because of the heat of the fire.
I'm sure a lot of the "theories" put forward in that film can be de-bunked... however there still remain many unanswered questions and given the history of those who had so recently stolen power on the back of a few hanging chads, I really wouldn't put it past them.
Hawks need conflict to justify their existence. We now know they played up the Soviet Union's strength (when they knew all along it was close to economic and social collapse) to justify ever increased military spending and ever more secrecy and power for themselves. The same happened over Iraq and is no doubt happening with regard to Iran.
Re: 911 - was it self inflicted?
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:44 am
by Flat_Eric
I'm also getting tired of all these silly 9-11 conspiracy theories. Yes, no doubt there's plenty of stuff that we've not been told and a lot of unanswered questions (like what happened to the CCTV footage from the petrol station across the road from the Pentagon, and why was Attorney General John Ashcroft quietly warned a couple of months before 9-11 NOT to take commercial flights because of reported a hijack threat, while the population at large was kept ignorant of said threat and left to take their chances).
But I've also no doubt that those responsible were a bunch of Islamic fruitcakes. Not the U.S. government, not the CIA, not the FBI, not Mossad and not extraterrestrials.
Re: 911 - was it self inflicted?
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:08 am
by jimslip
Buy a book called "911 Revealed". It confirms the glaringly obvious motives for the dark forces within the American administration to plan and perpitrate the biggest, most "Hollywood" style atrocity in history in order to create a new world order, controlled in effect by the Yanks.
Of this has indeed happened.
Re: 911 - was it self inflicted?
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:43 am
by Flat_Eric
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A lot of Biblical scholars (as opposed to popular culture throughout the ages) actually think that The Book of Revelation prophesises the eventual final fall of the Roman Empire - which at that time covered practically all the known world and was to a large extent brought about by nomadic warrior hordes invading its territory from - the East!
I don't think we need to barricade ouselves into our cellars with shotguns and as many tins of corned beef and bottles of Volvic as we can hoard just yet! People have been predicting that "The End Is Nigh" ever since the dawn of recorded history and guess what - we're still here!
Re: 911 - was it self inflicted?
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:13 am
by DavidS
That is correct, Eric. The propheises in the Book of Revelations do refer to the fall of the Roman Empire.
Re: 911 - was it self inflicted?
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:53 am
by dynatech
I remember being told about 9/11 as it was breaking news by some hysterical moron in a car, and I remember feeling totally unmoved. In fact my initial reaction was a sign and "oh well, I'm sure they're already scripting the movie" in a similar way I felt dread when we were faced with the "tragic" death of Princess Di.
I didn't know the terrible way it would affect all our lives, but I'm not talking loss of life, I and they couldn't care less about that, attrocities on some scale happen everyday all over the world, we are all but pawns in a very sick game. If you want to know how much it has affected lives, speak to people involved in finance. I don't mean High Street finance (though if you do speak to someone who works in "High St" banking, they will sigh and list all manner of crippling legislation brought about under the pretext of "prevention of terrorism"), if you speak to those involved in international money trading, offshore banking, personal investing etc they will tell you that they have been attacked with "anti-money laundering" legislation, and that these are now controlling the industry. Conveniently enough, the "terrible attrocities" that have occured have enabled the US government to more or less seize control of the international money trade and more or less outlaw heavy personal investing and control who has what, it must have been a gift from the gods. Or, perhaps just a gift from Allah.
Everything is all about money and control, and 9/11 has gifted them with all they wanted. I'm not going to bleat on about conspiracies, but consider this: The Islamic morons really couldn't have gifted the Western authorities with a greater weapon against us if they had tried, if they really against the U.S. their naive and silly beliefs couldn't have played more into their hands. Fuck terrorism, the U.S now has everyone over a barrel and there's fuck-all anyone can do about it.
What more could a controlling power want more than the ability to practically outlaw personal wealth on any greater scale? It is this power they have been granted.
Thank you America,
Thank you Islam.