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Very interesting article by Martin Amis on pornography (American) in Saturday's magazine. Expresses no views, just tells it as it is.

OK, trying to keep this on topic, I really enjoyed the article, disturbing as it was, and found myself wondering what happens to UK girls who try to get into the US porn biz.

The impression I get is that in Britain the famous models seem a lot more in control of their lives, whereas in US except for a few eg Jenna it's the system that's controlling them.

Have many UK models swapped the adulation they receive as popular Paul Raymond/top-shelf models in England for the life of the US porn star? I know Layla Jade did loads of US films but I don't know who else.

Is it a worthwhile career move, or do they end up burnt-out, no longer the big fish in the small pond? Which UK models have gone over there?

And what happens to the models who chose not to, who don't want to make US porno, but who then find their faces become too familiar in the UK scene - maybe for example Abigail Toyne or Sandy? You can't go on making softcore forever.

belmondouk wrote:
> The impression I get is that in Britain the famous models
> seem a lot more in control of their lives, whereas in US
> except for a few eg Jenna it's the system that's controlling
> them.
Ginger Lynn, it is said, actually negotiated a percentage of the gross on some of her films back in the 80s.
>
> Have many UK models swapped the adulation they receive as
> popular Paul Raymond/top-shelf models in England for the life
> of the US porn star? I know Layla Jade did loads of US films
> but I don't know who else.
>
Paula Meadows (a dozen or so films in the 80s), Taylor Wayne, Sarah Jane Hamilton, Sharon Brady, Nici Sterling, Roxanne Hall, Sabrina Johnson and maybe a few others, plus many who occasionally do American videos. Try looking at the numbers of films next to performer names - if they exceed 50 it is very likely that many of them are American videos.

OK but I'm still interested to know what happens to the models who get as famous as is possible within the UK scene but opt *not* to do hardcore movies.

Do they get office jobs? Have any got into non-adult modelling? Moved into TV presenting?

Since this site is about girls who *do* opt to do hard core movies, are you asking in the right place?

Well I was thinking in particular about Nadia who has done solo h/c and tvx-style girl/girl not-quite-hardcore. I was wondering whether she would, after the magazine sets she's done, move into doing b/g hardcore, or whether she'd be better off trying to move into the mainstream.

So what was in my head was on-topic even if it might not have been apparent!

She has done some b/g hard core photo sets, but no such videos.

Some women in porn do burn out - we can all mention names. Not sure this is true of any Brits. Seems most Brits pop over to the US, do a few movies, make some useful money and come back home. Nothing wrong with that. Layla, of course, is a different matter but then the Americans do seem to have taken to her and she - admittedly from a distance - seems a very smart woman who knows what she is doing. Porn has its unusual pressures but what job doesn't. I'm afraid the article could be written about doctors, farmers or many other professions. Its a mean old world (as someone once sang)

There's a link on www.iafd.com to a list of dead pornstars with the nature of their deaths described as far as is known. Although it is certainly incomplete - the early 80s American star Chelsea Manchester wasn't listed last time I looked, for example - it seems remarkable, given the attitudes of some in outside society, how few there are who could be said to have 'died of shame', as it were, compared to the number of women (and men) who have worked in the profession - over 900 girls on this site and thousands on iafd.

Before you ask, the only thing I know about Chelsea Manchester is what I recall seeing in a documentary segment of an old Electric Blue tape which also discussed the drug-related suicide (or possibly murder as they had it) of Shauna Grant. It implied that Chelsea Manchester did commit suicide out of shame at her porn exploits. Shame of course can be imposed from without (society's attitudes and condemnation) as well as coming from within.

Donna Warner is another, she popped up in Louis Theroux's programme about the US porn scene. She claimed that she
preferred working in the States because she got fewer injuries!
Given the kind of Euro flicks she did, that is not surprising.

Also as I am always on about, Claire Kiernan. I have read mention of other less than famous UK girls in the States, but often the US reviewers concerned are so dismissive about the girls in the movies it's hard to tell who they are on about.

Sandy has done hardcore girl-girl vids, including a British made tape, and the US made No Mans Land series and also the Hustler Barely Legal video magazine.

I haven't heard of any UK girls becoming LA burnouts, actually I think Nici Sterling in particular has done extremely well.