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why weren't we warned before?

Posted: Fri May 24, 2002 7:26 am
by The Stir Fry Master
I've only just read the thread on the FC incident and have to say I'm very shocked by the story and pissed off for buying from him if he's such a t@@t!!

I do have a few questions though.

1. If this guy is such a creep, why has he got a huge banner on the links section of this site?
2. Why do some models return for multiple videos if he is such a tosser?
3. Everyone seems to dislike him. why wasn't this stressed with more force by those who knew before he got arrested?

These questions aren't't meant to offend, but I wouldn't be afraid to inform anyone if I knew they were dealing with someone dodgy and sick-minded.

why has it taken so long for people to speak out????

Re: why weren't we warned before?

Posted: Fri May 24, 2002 8:11 am
by The Insider
I asume the models return becasue he paid well.

A colleague who used to have dealings with 'Sooty' told me that the times a model was asked back to do more videos related to the amount of 'stuff' the model was prepared to do for him! In fact Sooty's saying was "The more they do, the more they get paid."

I guess we can only draw our own conclusions as to what went on between the oversexed Sooty and the girls with numerous FC vids under their garter belts.


Dibble.

Re: why weren't we warned before?

Posted: Fri May 24, 2002 8:18 am
by Chanta Rose
Some models didn't have any problems with him (like Vicky Holloway), others only worked for him the once and wished they hadn't (like me) and others were more than happy to do as they were told (not mentioning names here but it is no secret that some models fuck producers/photographers/etc to get work).

Re: why weren't we warned before?

Posted: Fri May 24, 2002 8:23 am
by jj
This has been discussed ad nauseam, (do a search !!!!), with varying opinions from some of his models.
'He' hasn't got a huge banner here: his COMPANY has: so the answer might be that he is not the whole outfit; people who work for him also have livelihoods to protect, and in my experience, are top-class in terms of customers service.
I cannot see why they should suffer for their master's failings.

Re: why weren't we warned before?

Posted: Fri May 24, 2002 8:45 am
by The Insider
Yes, indeed Chanta. Didn't want to be so blatant as to mention the 'F' word. Hey, when you come round my laidback gaff the only obligations are that you look gorgeous. Though I may pay you in 'Jaffacakes' next time!

The Insider

Re: why weren't we warned before?

Posted: Fri May 24, 2002 8:53 am
by Phil McC
Chanta on a lighter note can you put me in touch with the models who do this, as I could do with interviewing a few,
Phil McC

Re: why weren't we warned before?

Posted: Fri May 24, 2002 9:54 am
by lurker

Phil,

I envied the under-table BJ you got in 'Violet Storm -
Porn Star #1' at your place of work.... but clearly
that was just a scene!

Staying on-topic, JJ makes a good but - but I am
wondering if it would be appropriate to put a link
to the appropriate forum topic next to their banner
so that purveyors on this site can make up their
own mind ?

Re: why weren't we warned before?

Posted: Fri May 24, 2002 10:03 am
by jj
I'd assume that most first-time visitors would visit the forum before using the 'Links' section, and therefore, after a short search, be armed with the necessary info.
And that they were mature enough to make their own moral decision.
I wish to God I'd found the Site sooner: it would have saved me an awful lot of that tedious dealing with scallies.
And about 5K.........

Re: why weren't we warned before?

Posted: Fri May 24, 2002 12:13 pm
by Caractacus
When I first found this site, less than two years ago, there would be the occasional critical remark about FC which, as I didn't know any of the posters and didn't as yet trust what they were saying, I put down to jealousy or trying to besmirch a competitor. It wasn't until the tail end of last year that there was more than just a hint as to the nature of Sutcliffe and what was going on in west Yorkshire. I asked two or three people what they knew, and immediately ceased ordering from the company.
I'm angry that there wasn't a clearer indication, but what could this site have done? If the accusations had turned out to be false, the moderators could have faced prosecution.
I agree with JJ re the other people employed at FC. The company still has the potential to be a good provider and maker of films. There is a strong tendency to repeating the same things, leaving scenes before they've reached a natural conclusion and so on, but the company's distribution service is next to none (imho). Having said all that, I wouldn't give them a brass ha'penny while that man still has a financial connection to the company.

Re: why weren't we warned before?

Posted: Fri May 24, 2002 1:13 pm
by jj
I may have posted about the decline in quality of their
'product' over the last 3+ years. Seems to have picked up a bit in the last few months, though.
Draw your own conclusions.......
I gave your point about his (allegedly remaining....) financial connection to the firm much consideration at the time, but decided, like Spock, that 'the good of the many outweighs'....
It is surprising, in view of the fact that, AFAICT, one or more of their staff have posted here previously, no-one from there has come forward to issue a 'disclaimer'.
I've no idea how much business they're losing because of 'l'affaire Sutcliffe': the US and other places in which they do a roaring trade may not even be aware of recent events.